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Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288759
06/18/21 02:05 AM
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Trump is a psychopath. Yes, the idea of voting for him is offensive.

You guys can't defend Trump, so you attack me. Yawn.

Jim


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"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288760
06/18/21 02:30 AM
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Go to bed Jamie. No ones attacking you, we’re only trying to open your eyes a little. You clearly couldn’t see Biden’s stance on 2A or Trumps legitimacy with the border wall. Alaska will suffer with no oil production on federal land after Trump worked to open our oil/mining/logging industries. Too blind to see that too I guess. What about when the keystone got axed and shortly after that our cruise ships got axed by the Canadians. Hard to see that from your pedestal?

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: James] #7288768
06/18/21 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Grandpa, you've always been civil, so I'll try to answer your question. I'm not speaking for myself here, but hypothetically, as your question was asked hypothetically.

Suppose you had a choice: give up your guns, or lose a child to cancer? If you're like most parents, you'd keep the child and lose the guns.

Suppose your choice was to give up your guns or lose everything else you owned?

Suppose it was a choice between losing your health or losing your guns?

You can see where I'm going. There are other things than guns, some things even more important.

Almost all gun-owners support the Second Amendment. Where they tend to disagree is on what other things may be just or more important.

Jim


This is a great argument unless you substitute the word guns with freedom or liberty, which is what will happen without individual gun ownership.


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Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: James] #7288769
06/18/21 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Blaine County
I'm still waiting for you guys to point out who on here voted for Biden. It seems to be mostly fake news.


I believe Charles admitted he voted for Joe.


Originally Posted by James
Burn the witch!

Jim


Why James, that’s not like you to suggest something so cruel over a vote.


BC asked and it was answered. Nothing more.


-Goofy-
Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: SE.Current] #7288775
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Originally Posted by SE.Current
Go to bed Jamie. No ones attacking you, we’re only trying to open your eyes a little. You clearly couldn’t see Biden’s stance on 2A or Trumps legitimacy with the border wall. Alaska will suffer with no oil production on federal land after Trump worked to open our oil/mining/logging industries. Too blind to see that too I guess. What about when the keystone got axed and shortly after that our cruise ships got axed by the Canadians. Hard to see that from your pedestal?


Yep..

Best President we've had in our lifetimes. 100% for Americans and America's wellbeing unlike the others, but like they say...ya can't fix stupid.

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288780
06/18/21 06:05 AM
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I voted for Trump! And I will again soon!!


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America First!!
Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: charles] #7288787
06/18/21 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by charles
Most people vote their pocketbook.


not much different than corporations selling out their own country for profit (their pocketbook).

seems to me, you're doing the same thing.

don't be surprised when you've "squandered your resistance for a pocketful of mumbles
Such are promises, all lies and jest. Still a man hears what he wants to hear; And disregards the rest, hmmm"




Last edited by white marlin; 06/18/21 06:22 AM.


Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288801
06/18/21 06:41 AM
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Years ago I had a boss that was hard core union and democrat.He was also a gun owner and hunter.He was trying to sell us on voting against the "Republican b#@$%&ds" and when somebody mentioned the dems voting record on gun control he said "it'll never happen "." Don't worry about what they say,they'll never take your guns".I've listened to similar sentiments before,they'll ignore or excuse the dems when it comes to some issues,the important thing to them is to keep the dems in power because they're convinced the Republicans are evil


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Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #7288803
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Years ago I had a boss that was hard core union and democrat.He was also a gun owner and hunter.He was trying to sell us on voting against the "Republican b#@$%&ds" and when somebody mentioned the dems voting record on gun control he said "it'll never happen "." Don't worry about what they say,they'll never take your guns".I've listened to similar sentiments before,they'll ignore or excuse the dems when it comes to some issues,the important thing to them is to keep the dems in power because they're convinced the Republicans are evil


not because they're evil (that's just the schtick)...because Dems keep the money flowing into union coffers, and union coffers keep the money flowing into Dems' pockets; and Dems keep the money flowing into union coffers...



Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: James] #7288805
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Originally Posted by James
Trump is a psychopath. Yes, the idea of voting for him is offensive.

You guys can't defend Trump, so you attack me. Yawn.

Jim

He may be, but he was able to do the job. That's all that matters. That's a polite response. I didn't attack you. All better?


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Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288819
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
politicians that want to take their guns, hunting, and trapping rights away. I know some on the gun, hunting and trapping forums did and probably will continue to do so. I don’t get it.


Maybe they just say they do so they get attention on here.
If I come on tman and whine every day will it help or change anything?

Constant whining gets old.
Like someone complaining ALL THE TIME.

Wait, I think I'm whining lol.

I hope youns can have a good day.





Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: James] #7288823
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Originally Posted by James
Trump is a psychopath. Yes, the idea of voting for him is offensive.

You guys can't defend Trump, so you attack me. Yawn.

Jim

I thought you were a counselor, not a psychiatrist. You may be a psychopath, who knows, but calling Trump one is a sign of jealousy.

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288825
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Trump may, or may not be a psychopath, I'm not a psychiatrist, and neither is anyone else here,...but most of the politicians on both sides are power hungry, corrupt, liars, and otherwise useless individuals. Probably a few actual psychopaths in there as well.

So tell me, How bad was trump really????

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288839
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i just want to have as much freedom when its my turn to die as i had when i was born

biden trump obamma bush clinton bush reagon carter ford nixon johnson kennedy couldnt have cared less about individual liberty.

they did/do all have one thing in common and that is/was the quest for bigger more powerful government


the greatest threat our nation has is the fact that citizens look for government to solve all their problems and prevent anything bad from happening to them


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Move into one of the many cities that don't enforce the laws you don't like Danny. Cities like Portland, Seattle and Chicago have the freedoms your after.

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288860
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no argument hippie so you just make a senseless comment? you would look less foolish if you just kept quiet


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: danny clifton] #7288866
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
i just want to have as much freedom when its my turn to die as i had when i was born


you're going to die a disappointed, old man.

that ship has sailed MANY moons ago.

best we can hope/work for is to set the stage for future generations.

but until we get control of the education system, it's a fool's errand.



Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: danny clifton] #7288868
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
no argument hippie so you just make a senseless comment? you would look less foolish if you just kept quiet


Just a look at what you want, no argument needed.

Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7288875
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but until we get control of the education system, it's a fool's errand


Yet a parent has way more influence on a child than a teacher. if they choose to use that influence. brings us back to citizens who want government to have more control so government can protect them from bad things

how many times have you heard someone say zoning laws are a good thing to protect peoples investment in real estate? same thing for clean lawn ordinances.

gun laws, lawn care laws etc are all being enforced in portland. they just quit enforcing theft and murder laws. when i was born theft and murder were not only illegal but even shoplifting was still a crime and enforced by both L.E. and judges. Same with gas drive offs.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Why do gun owners, trappers keep voting for [Re: Wright Brothers] #7288954
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
politicians that want to take their guns, hunting, and trapping rights away. I know some on the gun, hunting and trapping forums did and probably will continue to do so. I don’t get it.


Maybe they just say they do so they get attention on here.
If I come on tman and whine every day will it help or change anything?

Constant whining gets old.
Like someone complaining ALL THE TIME.

Wait, I think I'm whining lol.

I hope youns can have a good day.


“Youns” lol. I miss Pittsburghese talk.

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