Pay 25+ an hour and it's not been a big issue so far.

We start at 25 for drivers, home every night, $6000 sign on bonus, $1000 retention bonus yearly, paid vacation and sick leave and full benefits at 30 days. Still struggle to get enough applicants to keep the wheels rolling.

Start at 16 for warehouse $1000 sign on bonus, $500 yearly retention bonus and same vacation, sick leave and benefits as drivers and still have more temps than our employees.

I've heard the arguments that pay enough and lazy people will came to work. I totally disagree a lazy person who is paid very little for doing nothing will continue doing nothing as long as they can because they are lazy. A good worker will strive for more in the future and have a backup plan to make improvements in their lives. Unfortunately the government sees the workers as cows to be milked till they are dry and the lazy people as the victims of an unknown or unnamed victomizer. But as long as the lazy stay poor and stay convinced its not their fault they are poor the government can continue to steal from the middle and give to the rich who run the programs for the poor. Who believe the government is their only option at survival

Sorry went a bit off the rails there. I don't blame any one party but the whole mess. We are near the end of this once great republic I am afraid.

Tomorrow I start my 56th year of having a job. For the past 55 years I've been hearing that no employees are available (in my field as a land surveyor). Funny thing is, if an employer offers the correct amount of compensation the vacant jobs will fill quick. The US government has lowered the value of the dollar. Pay what it takes and they will fill the jobs.

I have between 12 to 14 men at my post mill. 1/3 are mid 50's guys that have been mill workers all their lives, live close, and live simple. 1/3 Are 20 something young bucks that come and go, they are on green chain mostly. 1/3 mid 30's men not long out of jail for child support. Every man gets 10 to 12 hours overtime every week. Starting pay $11.00, .50 cent raise at 30 days another .50 cents at 60 days. After 60 days, every 2 months I look through my daily notes and bump wages where deserved and earned. I am on a busy state road with a BIG HELP wanted sign out all summer. The sign has become a local landmark, conversation piece. Lol I hire 10 to get maybe 2 that last the season.

Pay 25+ an hour and it's not been a big issue so far.

It is the mindset that is out there now. Our Government is the enabler. We pay tax’s to enable those to do as little as possible I have employees in there 20s with children. As long as the wife keeps her wages low. They get free health care. Food stamps. Wick etc... Now with them getting there child care tax credit early. You won’t get them back to work. This in my opinion is not sustainable. You can’t have more riding the wagon then pulling the wagon.

A lot of places run on a handful of good employees that are willing to do most of the works and the rest are willing to let them do that work until the hard workers burn out.

Too many lazy lumps.
Even on here you see guys post about not trapping because they cant get big money for fur.Better to lay around the shack til the mail train comes back.