Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Posco]
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Tomorrow I start my 56th year of having a job. For the past 55 years I've been hearing that no employees are available (in my field as a land surveyor). Funny thing is, if an employer offers the correct amount of compensation the vacant jobs will fill quick. The US government has lowered the value of the dollar. Pay what it takes and they will fill the jobs. The company I work for can't hire or retain good employees. The pay isn't bad for the area but it isn't enough to offset the schedule and monotony of the job. I keep telling them it ain't rocket science to figure out why they're understaffed but they seem to be mystified by it. Winners right here.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/23/21 08:49 AM
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Pay 25+ an hour and it's not been a big issue so far. At the very least it will raise the price of goods so the demand will dwindle to the point the business won’t need help. lol What I meant is that I am paying 25+ an hour for my workers and so far it has not been to difficult to find help. Just a small crew, one full time guy and occasional part time, part time is usually paid over 25 an hour. And yes I have raised my prices.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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BTW, the left's policies and their anti-police rhetoric is causing the spike in crime and violence. Then they blame guns to gain support to take our guns away and eventually our 2nd Amendment Rights!
Let's go Brandon!
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
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daughter got hired a local paper mill , starting wage was 28+ , 3 people quit in 3 weeks , did not like the work to hot , shift work , , my daughter is getting 20 plus hours of overtime a week , because they can't get workers, good benefits there also , That comes out to just over 100K/ yr!!! I'm assuming this is low skilled or semi-skilled work at best. A job any 1/2 way competent person should be able to do. I think there is a sizable chunk of unemployed workers out there that are happy just getting by. If Uncle Sam gives them enough to cover food and shelter they are more than happy to stay unemployed. They would rather just get by and not have to work than work and get ahead.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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I think some of these companies trained the younger job force a bit to be what it is now. Wasn't to many years back when lots were hiring two part time people to do the job of one full time employee. They could save money because typically part timers got no insurance or benefits that it cost the company for full time staff. When I was a young man people tried to find job where they had career and could make a living. I seem to recall not to many years back hearing some employers where even helping their employees, get a second part time job.. Both of my my kids are working for same company. Both have been there for over 15 years now.. But the company now has them pay capped for some time. Their right in a spot where they won't give their employee's a raise, yet can't find workers starting at almost what they pay so called career staff... They even restructure their jobs call them something different so can keep their pay the same.. Just a bunch BS to not give even cost living raise.. My son is ready to bail and go to one of the places now begging for people.. But he has a home and mortgage can't just take a total pay hit to switch jobs..
Seems we all forget too that a lot of jobs that used to take 5 guys. Now just need one machine operator can't hire 5 dumb grunts.. I do know I see sign every where and some with starting pay higher than I was making when I retired 6 years ago. Is for sure different world. I think the employers own some of the problem too not just all lazy people..
Mac
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Macthediver]
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06/23/21 09:37 AM
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I think some of these companies trained the younger job force a bit to be what it is now. Wasn't to many years back when lots were hiring two part time people to do the job of one full time employee. They could save money because typically part timers got no insurance or benefits that it cost the company for full time staff. When I was a young man people tried to find job where they had career and could make a living. I seem to recall not to many years back hearing some employers where even helping their employees, get a second part time job.. Both of my my kids are working for same company. Both have been there for over 15 years now.. But the company now has them pay capped for some time. Their right in a spot where they won't give their employee's a raise, yet can't find workers starting at almost what they pay so called career staff... They even restructure their jobs call them something different so can keep their pay the same.. Just a bunch BS to not give even cost living raise.. My son is ready to bail and go to one of the places now begging for people.. But he has a home and mortgage can't just take a total pay hit to switch jobs..
Seems we all forget too that a lot of jobs that used to take 5 guys. Now just need one machine operator can't hire 5 dumb grunts.. I do know I see sign every where and some with starting pay higher than I was making when I retired 6 years ago. Is for sure different world. I think the employers own some of the problem too not just all lazy people..
Mac Good call.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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06/23/21 09:50 AM
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I almost feel guilty being retired when so many jobs out there I could do for good money, but I like the retired life. If I make a $100 dollars selling scrap or doing an ADC call I feel like I am rolling in cash that week. I still don't have my deer food plot planted, been too busy, plus I had a track come off the dozer in the marsh, that has turned into way too much work.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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Been retired here for 10 years.Dont feel guilty whatsoever.In fact I would feel guilty taking salaried work away from a younger person who needs it at that point in their life. Since then I do the work I want to do, when I want to do it,for me.Some of that work makes money and some costs money but provides equity or maintains/improves investments.
Last edited by Boco; 06/23/21 10:19 AM.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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06/23/21 01:15 PM
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I don't have a horse in this race, but 15 bucks an hour doesn't buy anything these days. If you're just out of school living with mom and dad still, it'll work. That's about it.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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06/23/21 01:54 PM
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In 58 years I never made $15 unless I was working overtime. Now that's about minimum wage.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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06/23/21 01:55 PM
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Saw Jen Psaki on TV yesterday. When asked about how long the administration was going to keep extending benefits to people who weren't working, she said as long as there are people who were financially hurting, the benefits would keep coming. This after a number of governors were saying they were planning to end the free money.
We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: beartooth trapr]
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06/23/21 01:56 PM
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Good jobs to be had around Billings Mt. , Sysco food services is offering $10,000.00 sign on bonus. Class A CDL and clean driving record.
Same thing in Medical field some pretty sweet sign bonuses and relocation allowance. Is Billings plagued with undesirables?.......with the rez being right there close?
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Gary Benson]
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06/23/21 04:53 PM
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Yep you got it , and lots of crime imo
Let me sugar coat this
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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06/23/21 05:19 PM
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I just planted 3 acres of blueberries last fall, have plants coming in for another acre this fall and have another 1 acre already in full production. It takes 5-8 workers per acre to pick blueberries. To say that I'm concerned about labor shortages would be an understatement.
Back in the day when we had a porous border it was easy to meet your labor needs....in the meantime we have people of all ages milling around in homeless camps begging for stuff. This country is in deep trouble.
Can we make a deal with Mexico and trade about 5 million people? We'll give them 5 of our homeless for every one of theirs currently at the border looking for a better life up north.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: bblwi]
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06/23/21 05:21 PM
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We had many firms in our area use armed guards to escort out employees during massive layoff events. The children of those workers witnessed those events and they won't kiss the ring of administrations that treated their parent like that. Loyalty is a door that swings both ways. WI is at 3.9% UE which is well below the national average and almost where it was pre COVID so the help wanted ads and signs are not much different then two years ago. What has changed is the real publication of hourly pay. Most historical ads stated pay dependent upon skill etc., now more toss out a number and that number is much larger than 2, 3 or 5 years ago. Another issue is we have many smaller manufacturing firms that are not at full staff, some due to labor shortages and quite a bit due to not getting supplies as needed to produce their products. We have a lot of food processing firms near us and many are dairy related and they have plenty of milk to be fully operational.
Bryce I applaud them for being willing to have to drive hours for a job when those facilities close. Kudos.
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