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Wagyu cattle #7292126
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Has anybody on here been raising them

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No but I did see an ad for some especially puny lookin Wagyu calves just now weaned. Ad says they should average around 400# each and the askin price was only $1200 / head


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Feedlot were we feed some cattle, were feeding several 1000 a year. That's about as close to them as I've been.

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How about F1 hybrids? Used to know some guys that raised those.

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There is obviously money to be made, but it takes someone willing and able to market their cattle. They can't just be sold at the local sale barn without taking a SEVERE discount because of how they look. I've toyed with the idea but just don't have time for the marketing part. The F1s make the most sense, you can get good marbling without too much fat that some of the fullbloods produce, and it can be done with just buying a bull and putting him on some decent British cattle.

Re: Wagyu cattle [Re: Bigfoot] #7292215
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my buddy in panhandle of texas raises F1 hybrids. has pure blood bulls and run them with black angus cows.
all I know about them is the bulls are mean and enjoy tearing up fences and chasing me when hunting and trapping. the calves seem to have a slight temper but overall decent.
he markets them straight to a feedlot that finishes them and sells for premium price.

Re: Wagyu cattle [Re: Bigfoot] #7292229
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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
Has anybody on here been raising them


I know nothing about them but there is an operation about 40 miles from me that raises and markets the meat. They sell online, have a store in town and go to Austin on weekends and sell meat to the "crazies".

Pictures of the live cattle on their website look like corriente. http://wintersfamilybeef.com/

I do know that my crowd is not going to pay $31.50 a pound for wagyu steaks.


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Is that those steaks that are riddled with fat so people with no teeth can eat them?


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My wife saw two wagyu steaks for $200 at Costco on Monday. Somebody is making money.


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They are skinny because they store their fat in the muscle instead of back fat . I wonder if the F 1s would grass finnish easier than other breeds

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I read it takes 2 1/2 years to get one to butcher weight


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I have 38 head of F1 mamma cows I bought as bred heifers a few years ago. They calved Angus the first year and Charolais the last two. Mine are puppy dog gentle till they calve then mean as a rattlesnake for the next two months.

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Originally Posted by Bigfoot
They are skinny because they store their fat in the muscle instead of back fat . I wonder if the F 1s would grass finnish easier than other breeds


I see your reasoning and I suppose it is possible?
You out writin them big checks now?
grin


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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Originally Posted by Bigfoot
They are skinny because they store their fat in the muscle instead of back fat . I wonder if the F 1s would grass finnish easier than other breeds


I see your reasoning and I suppose it is possible?
You out writin them big checks now?
grin


No , i am thinking about venturing into the world of artificial insemination though . You can get into the game pretty reasonable .
Originally Posted by danny clifton
I read it takes 2 1/2 years to get one to butcher weight

My thought process is not to produce a IMF gade5 wagyu steak . my end goal is to produce a 1 1/2 old grass finished stier with some decent marbeling in the steaks . There is a huge demand for a smaller framed grass finished beef right now .

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Originally Posted by Trapper5123
I have 38 head of F1 mamma cows I bought as bred heifers a few years ago. They calved Angus the first year and Charolais the last two. Mine are puppy dog gentle till they calve then mean as a rattlesnake for the next two months.

How has selling the calves been going

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Originally Posted by Bigfoot

My thought process is not to produce a IMF gade5 wagyu steak . my end goal is to produce a 1 1/2 old grass finished stier with some decent marbeling in the steaks . There is a huge demand for a smaller framed grass finished beef right now .


Are you planning on buying the steers or breeding your own cows? I would like to do grass fed finished steers but I would buy Angus steers at weaning and finish them out, finding wagyu steers seems tough.

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I don't know as it would be called planning yet . More like thinking on post . Kind of spit balling really . I have a herd of eighty beefmaster cows that i just put angus bulls on . If i was to do this I would AI several of my cows next spring

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Have a buddy that raises them. Says theyre deee-lishious.
But he's not exactly the picture of health. As round as tall kinda
deal. Theyre high dollar though for sure. High fat, high taste
supposedly. Better to raise for selling than freezing by what i know...

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Re: Wagyu cattle [Re: Bigfoot] #7292683
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You will find them to be slower growing, poorer conversion and lower yielding than our standard beef breeds. Best way to produce a better marbled grass fed beef is feed it some grain.

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