Re: Employers :Finding workers
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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I just planted 3 acres of blueberries last fall, have plants coming in for another acre this fall and have another 1 acre already in full production. It takes 5-8 workers per acre to pick blueberries. To say that I'm concerned about labor shortages would be an understatement.
Back in the day when we had a porous border it was easy to meet your labor needs....in the meantime we have people of all ages milling around in homeless camps begging for stuff. This country is in deep trouble.
Can we make a deal with Mexico and trade about 5 million people? We'll give them 5 of our homeless for every one of theirs currently at the border looking for a better life up north. You can thank a Democrat. Just sayin.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I have been with the same employer for 23 years. They have always paid a competitive wage, benefits, and opportunity to move up with some work for the area . For the first 17-18 years turnover nor absenteeism was an issue. The 5 years it has gotten gradually worse. Started out getting plenty of applicants, but out of 10 new hires 3 or 4 would make the 90 day probationary period due to being late, leaving early, or not showing at all. We recently had 12 open positions and only received 3 applications total. The company has raised the starting wage a few times and this closes the pay gap between entry level and the more senior or higher skilled workers. This creates a whole other problem.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I have been with the same employer for 23 years. They have always paid a competitive wage, benefits, and opportunity to move up with some work for the area . For the first 17-18 years turnover nor absenteeism was an issue. The 5 years it has gotten gradually worse. Started out getting plenty of applicants, but out of 10 new hires 3 or 4 would make the 90 day probationary period due to being late, leaving early, or not showing at all. We recently had 12 open positions and only received 3 applications total. The company has raised the starting wage a few times and this closes the pay gap between entry level and the more senior or higher skilled workers. This creates a whole other problem. Yes it does .......
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I have been with the same employer for 23 years. They have always paid a competitive wage, benefits, and opportunity to move up with some work for the area . For the first 17-18 years turnover nor absenteeism was an issue. The 5 years it has gotten gradually worse. Started out getting plenty of applicants, but out of 10 new hires 3 or 4 would make the 90 day probationary period due to being late, leaving early, or not showing at all. We recently had 12 open positions and only received 3 applications total. The company has raised the starting wage a few times and this closes the pay gap between entry level and the more senior or higher skilled workers. This creates a whole other problem. From each according to their ability to each according to their need.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I have between 12 to 14 men at my post mill. 1/3 are mid 50's guys that have been mill workers all their lives, live close, and live simple. 1/3 Are 20 something young bucks that come and go, they are on green chain mostly. 1/3 mid 30's men not long out of jail for child support. Every man gets 10 to 12 hours overtime every week. Starting pay $11.00, .50 cent raise at 30 days another .50 cents at 60 days. After 60 days, every 2 months I look through my daily notes and bump wages where deserved and earned. I am on a busy state road with a BIG HELP wanted sign out all summer. The sign has become a local landmark, conversation piece. Lol I hire 10 to get maybe 2 that last the season. In this economy with jobs everywhere, I wouldn't get out of bed for 11 bucks an hour. Don't have to, I got a full crew and took 4 apps this week, and a few last week. Not everyone can keep up with the cook line at McDonalds. I hire a lot of guys like Coonman 220, just treat them better.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I would and have hired off work at home weed smokers, but won't hire a drunk or a man with a drinking problem. Weed is legal in Michigan. I was shocked at how many pot smokers came out of the closet after it became legal.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I would and have hired off work at home weed smokers, but won't hire a drunk or a man with a drinking problem. Weed is legal in Michigan. I was shocked at how many pot smokers came out of the closet after it became legal. I wouldn’t tell your insurance company they are working for you unless they are hired as independent contractors.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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What's funny to me is as much as everyone is hiring, NO ONE is hiring part time. If you're not wanting to work 60+ hours a week, you ain't finding anything other than a burger flipper.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I would and have hired off work at home weed smokers, but won't hire a drunk or a man with a drinking problem. Weed is legal in Michigan. I was shocked at how many pot smokers came out of the closet after it became legal. I wouldn’t tell your insurance company they are working for you unless they are hired as independent contractors. There in lies a large part of the problem. The insurance companies offered cheaper rates if companies policies could discriminate against pot smokers. Now it comes back to bite them in the arse when they cant find a burger flipper because young folks like to smoke weed just like the older generation liked to drink alcohol. (which is actually a bigger liability than a harmless pot smoker.) cant get out of bed hung over, cant drive, DWI, etc etc... You would get the same results if they discriminated against alcohol users if you test to see if they had a drink in the past month and then label them unemployable because the insurance wants to welch out on paying claims.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I would and have hired off work at home weed smokers, but won't hire a drunk or a man with a drinking problem. Weed is legal in Michigan. I was shocked at how many pot smokers came out of the closet after it became legal. I wouldn’t tell your insurance company they are working for you unless they are hired as independent contractors. Insurance guy most likely smokes weed too. They can eat the stuff in a cookie at lunch now.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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[quote=Feedinggrounds]I would and have hired off work at home weed smokers, but won't hire a drunk or a man with a drinking problem. Weed is legal in Michigan. I was shocked at how many pot smokers came out of the closet after it became legal. I wouldn’t tell your insurance company they are working for you unless they are hired as independent contractors. There in lies a large part of the problem. The insurance companies offered cheaper rates if companies policies could discriminate against pot smokers. Now it comes back to bite them in the arse when they cant find a burger flipper because young folks like to smoke weed just like the older generation liked to drink alcohol. (which is actually a bigger liability than a harmless pot smoker.) cant get out of bed hung over, cant drive, DWI, etc etc...
You would get the same results if they discriminated against alcohol users if you test to see if they had a drink in the past month and then label them unemployable because the insurance wants to welch out on paying claims. Having EVERYONE tested after an accident is not discrimination. It’s not the claims they are concerned about. It’s the lawsuits.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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The labor issue around here is so screwed that a 63 year old retired guy, working part time, is a viable option!!???
I am starting to see this as well. I intend to Semi-retire in 4 years at 55, but have some options from more than one employer to work a few days a week if I want. I joked with one past employer that I wanted to work Tuesday through Thursday with no travel. He asked me when I wanted to start. I had a friend that was a chemical engineer that gave his employer a full years notice for retirement a few years ago. It came to the end of the year and retirement time. They had not found a suitable replacement so they offered my friend to stay on 3 days a week at full salary until they found some one. This drug on for almost another year. They finally found a replacement and paid my buddy full salary for another 6 months to mentor the guy 2 days a week.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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I thought of this topic while I was sitting in some traffic yesterday. Literally every tractor / trailer, commercial van, and service truck I saw had a "we are hiring" sign on it. Not a magnet that could be put up for a day until 1 or 2 more guys got hired- permanent signs. I can't help but think that if a man wanted a job he could go find one.
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Re: Employers :Finding workers
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You would get the same results if they discriminated against alcohol users if you test to see if they had a drink in the past month and then label them unemployable because the insurance wants to welch out on paying claims. Having EVERYONE tested after an accident is not discrimination. It’s not the claims they are concerned about. It’s the lawsuits.[/quote] Yes it is. They dont test for alcohol before a hire. only after an accident, and then looking to see if the guy smoked a joint in the last month. All while not concerned at all if the employee was out all night drinking and hung over that day.
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