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Canada Goose Stops ALL fur #7292930
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7292933
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I remember back a few years when they went public and people like PETA were buying stock.

The consensus was it would come to this by most here.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293165
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I remember CG sending reps to trapper conventions saying they wanted coyotes certified, that they were taken humanly and according to state laws. From what I saw trappers told to CG to pound sand for the most part. I picked the rep up at his hotel and hauled him back after he faced trappers not wanting any part of it at a NDFTA convention. I ask him on the way back to his hotel, what CG would do if they did not get the certification, and was told that it wasn't his call, but he would bet they would stop using fur. So is CG the bad guy? Maybe trappers did it to themselves. The same thing happened with LL Bean years ago.
They guy with the check book owns the ball and runs with it. Sometimes it pays to listen to him.

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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: MJM] #7293176
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Originally Posted by MJM
I remember CG sending reps to trapper conventions saying they wanted coyotes certified, that they were taken humanly and according to state laws. From what I saw trappers told to CG to pound sand for the most part. I picked the rep up at his hotel and hauled him back after he faced trappers not wanting any part of it at a NDFTA convention. I ask him on the way back to his hotel, what CG would do if they did not get the certification, and was told that it wasn't his call, but he would bet they would stop using fur. So is CG the bad guy? Maybe trappers did it to themselves. The same thing happened with LL Bean years ago.
They guy with the check book owns the ball and runs with it. Sometimes it pays to listen to him.

Yup..... But most hear would never allow themselves to hear it.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: MJM] #7293184
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Originally Posted by MJM
I remember CG sending reps to trapper conventions saying they wanted coyotes certified, that they were taken humanly and according to state laws. From what I saw trappers told to CG to pound sand for the most part. I picked the rep up at his hotel and hauled him back after he faced trappers not wanting any part of it at a NDFTA convention. I ask him on the way back to his hotel, what CG would do if they did not get the certification, and was told that it wasn't his call, but he would bet they would stop using fur. So is CG the bad guy? Maybe trappers did it to themselves. The same thing happened with LL Bean years ago.
They guy with the check book owns the ball and runs with it. Sometimes it pays to listen to him.

Give an inch and they'll demand a mile. I bet that had little to no effect on their decision.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293230
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Oil-based fabrics will only carry them so far.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293234
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There has to be another clothing manufacturer smart enough to take advantage of this

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293239
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The Israelis are likely running Canada Goose.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7293242
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Give an inch and they'll demand a mile. I bet that had little to no effect on their decision.

I heard people say that at the convention. I am not betting, I know it stupid to kill your market. But, to many it was the right thing to do.


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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293277
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Oil-based fabrics will only carry them so far.


Because most will look like crap in a couple of years compared to real fur. Then again, people who are buying $800 parkas probably get new coats every 2-3 years...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293339
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Aren't all coyotes caught legally also caught humanely?

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293340
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The handwritings been on the wall for quite awhile. Won't make a great deal of difference if we read it or not. I doubt when it's outlawed I'll kill any game wardens over it.


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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293358
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They already had enough info on where and by who the pelts came from without putting more burden on trappers to do their "tracing".

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293409
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PETA'S news release on this says they are switching their focus to the Down filling now.

Re-engage is the word they used so Canada Goose isn't rid of them yet.

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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293413
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Another coat maker should fill the void.


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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: martentrapper] #7293414
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Aren't all coyotes caught legally also caught humanely?

From what I have seen, yes. That's why I didn't see why trapper thought they were giving an inch. hippie, what was the burden? Sighing a statement? I have signed paper work selling fur for forty years. Name, address, license number signature. Most states require fur buyers to keep that information for reports at the end of the year.
One thing that is for sure, Canada Goose isn't going to push the market any this year. But at least no one was burdened.


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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: MJM] #7293418
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Originally Posted by MJM
I remember CG sending reps to trapper conventions saying they wanted coyotes certified, that they were taken humanly and according to state laws. From what I saw trappers told to CG to pound sand for the most part. I picked the rep up at his hotel and hauled him back after he faced trappers not wanting any part of it at a NDFTA convention. I ask him on the way back to his hotel, what CG would do if they did not get the certification, and was told that it wasn't his call, but he would bet they would stop using fur. So is CG the bad guy? Maybe trappers did it to themselves. The same thing happened with LL Bean years ago.
They guy with the check book owns the ball and runs with it. Sometimes it pays to listen to him.

X2


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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: MJM] #7293419
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Originally Posted by MJM
Originally Posted by martentrapper
Aren't all coyotes caught legally also caught humanely?

From what I have seen, yes. That's why I didn't see why trapper thought they were giving an inch. hippie, what was the burden? Sighing a statement? I have signed paper work selling fur for forty years. Name, address, license number signature. Most states require fur buyers to keep that information for reports at the end of the year.
One thing that is for sure, Canada Goose isn't going to push the market any this year. But at least no one was burdened.


You tell me what more they wanted.

If you sent a pelt to NAFA, if you did as a did, you gave them your name, address, phone number, signature and fur trapping license number. From there NAFA sold it to Canada Goose and then we got paid. So tell me, how wasn't that fur traceable back to me when C.G.bought it?

Traceability wasn't the end goal because they already had that.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293429
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Traceability was never anything more than a marketing tool. All sorts of products use labelling to make their product stand out. Free range, organic, dolphin free, locally grown,....... bla bla bla. I don't think there was any sinister end goal.

Re: Canada Goose bans all fur [Re: nyhuntfish] #7293432
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You're correct imo Walleye. I should have added.....if there was a goal towards trappers.

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