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What doesnt work? #7292858
06/24/21 12:51 PM
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I find this topic as interesting as what bait works best in a situation. I constantly think about one thing or another and spend a lot of time experimenting only to find out that it doesnt work at all. Then when i have the courage to actually talk with another peer about it they are like. Yeah i tried that once as well lol. It doesnt work. I will start with one from last season I was talking with a friend about and it did not work at all lol.

Bacon or bacon grease did not prove to have any value in trapping Marten what so ever. Although many are always trying for the bacon lure or bait for coyotes and have some success it has never really turned into a huge market yet. I myself have a bait that works good in the summer heat but in the winter it is a dead duck. Anyways was talking with a friend and he was going to try a new bacon based bait on his marten line. was having decent average success. Once he switched to his bacon bait he had zero catches and could see outright refusals in the snow. Tracks going ten feet out o their way of the setup he was running.

What have you tried that did not work at all and why do you think afterwards is the reason it didnt work.


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7292912
06/24/21 01:59 PM
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Borax as a bait preservative. It stopped the taint but the animals found it unpalatable. Also I use courser grade salts as antifreeze in my baits now because no matter how much fine grade table salt i added it would not work that well in keeping my baits from freezing.The main thing however, is that people told me that fresh bait and lure is best and it didn't call many animals from that far so this year i'm trying more tainted and rotted down baits to increase the amount of animals I can pick up.


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7293261
06/24/21 09:50 PM
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I fooled around with some fish meal I hauled into a feed meal out in Leoti KS. (I didnt steal it they let me have some) I picked it up in Memphis and the folks in Leoti were putting it in a hog ration. Didnt find that anything liked that stuff.


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7293315
06/25/21 12:04 AM
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Civit musk. I might be missing something but I just can't seem to get much reaction from coyotes with it. I've tested it by itself and I've tested it in numerous formulations. What few coons that have come along seem to have some interest in it though.

My list of things that didn't meet the grade I expected is pretty extensive but civit makes me scratch by head because it's highly touted my numerous people with more experience than me

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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7293366
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cats like it yes sir


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7293382
06/25/21 07:24 AM
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Thanks Danny

Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7293625
06/25/21 02:34 PM
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Got a free case of ketchup one year. Made a couple bait stations thinking coon might have interest, couldn't even get possums to take a whiff. Nothing ventured nothing gained


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7294011
06/26/21 07:11 AM
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Rubber baits made to look like frogs or crayfish clipped to pan of a trap. Have yet to get a coon to work one. More of a novelty and tried several for many years before I gave up wasting my time.

Danny i had same luck trying some gifted fish meal from local co-op. Same with a bone meal supplement, couldnt get coon or coyotes to be interested in either one.

20 mule team borax was touted as an off the shelf easy to obtain alternative bait preservative for making predator baits, back in 80s and 90s. Never had a single dirthole touched when I used baits preserved with thst stuff.

I do use bacon grease and have caught a lot of stuff on that. carp chunked up and either frozen fresh or salted with canning salt is a winner for both coyotes and coon.

Tire set. Tried that in several pastures with cattle over the years. Couldn't get a coyote to step into middle of the tire to fire the trap. They would circle around to smell the bait but never commit. Couldn't even get a coon with that set either. Bait, lure, didnt matter.

Owls are highly attracted to an electronic squeaker at sets, and not fun to turn loose either.

Using only fish at pocket sets does not make them beaver proof.

I dont care where folks have told me to shoot skunks so they won't spray...they always spray when I shoot them. Head, back, lungs, chest, heart, anywhere.

Anyway, that's my list of doesn't works for me stuff.


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Re: What doesnt work? [Re: thedude055] #7294342
06/26/21 06:06 PM
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I quit squeakers also. Multiple problems with them


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