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we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" #7301874
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the term actually came to us via a few translations

Lenin called them simpletons

it was the Italian's who took the term useful innocents that also translated useful fools

in 1959 the term useful idiots was entered into congressional record via a new paper article and miss attributed it to Lenin

no mater who said it , or it's exact translation simpleton , fool , innocent or idiot they are merely more or less harsh terms for the same thing.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2019/08/22/useful-idiot/


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Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7301972
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Well whoever coined that phrase fit the definition.

Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7301976
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I say we quit using "useful."
Sounds prejudice.
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Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7301984
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useful fools , one of the most direct translations to english seems to fit

In the Serbo-Croat language the communists have a phrase for true democrats who consent to collaborate with them for “democracy.” It is Koristne Budale, or Useful Innocents.

Raditsa rendered this crucial phrase as “Useful Innocents”, but a more direct translation of “Koristne Budale” into English yields “Useful Fools”.


progressivist democracy that serves only as a path to communism.


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Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7302023
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I’ll stick with useless idiots
That’s about as PC as I can express it ….. this being a kid friendly site, I can’t say what I really think as that would make even a sailor blush


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Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7302026
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I hang around a bunch of people and all of us, at some point or another, are idiots.
I promise you.
As in, we ain't using all 8 cylinders God gave us. Or 4 if God us 6. Or 2 if God gave us 4.
That sorta thing.



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Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: Mark June] #7302040
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Originally Posted by Mark June
I hang around a bunch of people and all of us, at some point or another, are idiots.
I promise you.
As in, we ain't using all 8 cylinders God gave us. Or 4 if God us 6. Or 2 if God gave us 4.
That sorta thing.



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We're not talking about "idiots" but the political title "useful idiot". There were many being manipulated in India and the USA in the 60s and 70s by the USSR

Re: we may have been misquoting "useful Idiot" [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7302080
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correct Pike river we are not speaking of people who do dumb things but a group of people who fit the political agenda of destruction yet use the words of democracy


here is a quote of the author who coined the phrase that became useful fools in English translation

"Be careful about people whose vocabulary is yours but whose record wherever they hold power is your destruction. Do not be Koristne Budale. Do not be “Useful Innocents.”


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