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Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Moosetrot] #7301444 07/07/21 07:00 PM 07/07/21 07:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,723 Maine M Mac trapper
Mac trapper M Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,723 Maine	Originally Posted by Moosetrot I read on the internet that Grizzlies have adapted to the point they can pick vehicle locks. Moosetrot And for Lords sake, do not leave a fly rod laying around your campsite. I read on the Internet that more and more bears are taking up fly fishing. Mac

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Allan Minear] #7301461 07/07/21 07:38 PM 07/07/21 07:38 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 2,686 Alaska D drasselt trapper
drasselt trapper D Joined: May 2010 Posts: 2,686 Alaska	Originally Posted by Allan Minear A portable electric fence around your camp is a good idea too . Just remember to be careful where you pee in the dark! you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301466 07/07/21 07:57 PM 07/07/21 07:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas Leftlane "HOSS"
Leftlane "HOSS" Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas	“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: The Beav] #7301534 07/07/21 09:42 PM 07/07/21 09:42 PM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook Posco trapper
Posco trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook	Originally Posted by The Beav Gun or no gun. If your curled up In your sleeping bag sleeping In the tent and a bear decides It wants In. Your chances are pretty slim. Sleeping out in the open in grizzly country takes a bit of getting used to. It typically took me a couple of nights before I could drift off to sleep not worrying about bears. You see the little bivy tent in the picture, I spent fifteen days alone on that particular hunt. I had planned on being in there for ten days but the weather kept the plane at bay for five more days. That sucked. You see the iced over lake in the foreground? You can see the bear on the same lake. I shot it less than a hundred yards from my tent. I've slept in trees in grizzly country. I even spent a few nights barricaded in a sauna. I love grizzly country.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301551 07/07/21 10:02 PM 07/07/21 10:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas Leftlane "HOSS"
Leftlane "HOSS" Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas	Cool story Bro! Prolly a good thing you bagged a bear of you'd have gotten mighty hungry that extra 5 days “What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Leftlane] #7301556 07/07/21 10:07 PM 07/07/21 10:07 PM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook Posco trapper
Posco trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook	Originally Posted by Leftlane Cool story Bro! Prolly a good thing you bagged a bear of you'd have gotten mighty hungry that extra 5 days Seriously. I'll tell you that story sometime.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301570 07/07/21 10:23 PM 07/07/21 10:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas Leftlane "HOSS"
Leftlane "HOSS" Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 20,337 The Hill Country of Texas	All kidding aside I am sure I would enjoy that “What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301589 07/07/21 10:47 PM 07/07/21 10:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 996 montana M merganser trapper
merganser trapper M Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 996 montana	I've said it before on similar threads...Let "hunters" go with the wardens when there is a problem bear and let that hunter hunt that problem bear. Start with the trouble making bears instead of moving them. Just like the bison "hunts" back in the late 80's. Get on a list, if you can't go, they call the next on the list and so on. I'd pay to do it and so would a lot of others.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301595 07/07/21 11:05 PM 07/07/21 11:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 10,155 Marion Kansas Y Yes sir "Callie's little brother"
Yes sir "Callie's little brother" Y Joined: Jan 2017 Posts: 10,155 Marion Kansas	Posco Your a braver man than me I think. I'd get on the worse bronc or rope and tie down the nastiest bull by myself before I'd EVER chose to sleep alone in a tent in grizzly country.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301618 07/08/21 12:02 AM 07/08/21 12:02 AM
Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 1,580 MT S Slick Pan trapper
Slick Pan trapper S Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 1,580 MT	Happens all the time in Montana. Nothing to see here folks. Just move along.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301622 07/08/21 12:24 AM 07/08/21 12:24 AM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 21,074 North East Kansas Marty OP trapper
Marty OP trapper Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 21,074 North East Kansas	Awesome, Posco. E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Slick Pan] #7301627 07/08/21 12:44 AM 07/08/21 12:44 AM
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 284 Montana/Florida G Gene Dziza trapper
Gene Dziza trapper G Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 284 Montana/Florida	Originally Posted by Slick Pan Happens all the time in Montana. Nothing to see here folks. Just move along. They didn't find the bear. Don't worry, if it comes back those Ovando folks will take care of the problem and the feds and game wardens may never even know about it.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Gene Dziza] #7301631 07/08/21 01:01 AM 07/08/21 01:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 3,077 Wyoming C cmcf trapper
cmcf trapper C Joined: Oct 2015 Posts: 3,077 Wyoming	Originally Posted by Gene Dziza Originally Posted by Slick Pan Happens all the time in Montana. Nothing to see here folks. Just move along. They didn't find the bear. Don't worry, if it comes back those Ovando folks will take care of the problem and the feds and game wardens may never even know about it. I’m not sure but I think the fine folks in Montana were the first to perfect the art of the three Ss But when it comes to a mankiller grizzly shoot on sight and tell the G&F where to pick up their pet. Sad deal for sure probably someone considered that woman family. Definitely needs to be a little restructuring of the foodchain. “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301752 07/08/21 09:02 AM 07/08/21 09:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,398 SD Boone Liane trapper
Boone Liane trapper Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,398 SD	Large apex predators have no place in the lower 48 anymore. And that’s all there is to it. And the only problem is concrete dwellers 1000 miles away, who are all experts on the matter, who never have to deal with the issue, dictating what should be done. You should read some of the comments on Fakebook over this incident. Pretty easy to see why this country is circling the bowl! Haul em all to NY and LA County. Let them deal with them since they think we’re the problem. Haul this man killer in to downtown San Fran since we shouldn’t kill it.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Yes sir] #7301762 07/08/21 09:11 AM 07/08/21 09:11 AM
Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook Posco trapper
Posco trapper Joined: Nov 2017 Posts: 11,286 Maine, Aroostook	Originally Posted by Yes sir Posco Your a braver man than me I think. I'd get on the worse bronc or rope and tie down the nastiest bull by myself before I'd EVER chose to sleep alone in a tent in grizzly country. I didn't realize it at the time but I was a bit crazier than the average Alaskan. Maybe some of the other Alaska guys can chime in and show I wasn't an anomaly. I don't think you have to be crazy to go solo on bear hunts, maybe just a bit more driven or maybe you just can't find a partner. I was pretty driven. This pic was taken on the Alaskan Peninsula. That's brown bear country. I didn't do any solo hunts down there. You can see the saltwater. We set up a base camp just off the beach. The bears would wander the beach every night searching to see what the tide brought in the day before. The twice daily tides would wash out the previous days tracks so you always knew what had wandered by in the night while you were asleep. The pic in my avatar is from one of those bears that wandered by in the night. That was made by one of the larger area residents. There were four or five salmon streams right in that area and there were plenty of bear taking advantage of it in the fall.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301778 07/08/21 09:49 AM 07/08/21 09:49 AM
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 411 TN Oreamnos trapper
Oreamnos trapper Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 411 TN	I did a 7 day solo SE AK brown bear hunt back when I lived there. Walking up salmon streams in the fall. SE is a jungle. Looking back that probably wasn't the smartest thing I could have done as everything was very close quarters.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Sharon] #7301800 07/08/21 10:26 AM 07/08/21 10:26 AM
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 284 Montana/Florida G Gene Dziza trapper
Gene Dziza trapper G Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 284 Montana/Florida	Originally Posted by Sharon Originally Posted by Dean Chapel How would you like to be the folks living in that town the day the gubment decided their homes and businesses were now going to be in a grizzly bear ecosystem recovery area.? Yes, having griz in your area isn't all it's cracked up to be. Hunting restrictions in black bear harvesting especially. In NW MT, on into N Idaho, baiting or running black bear with dogs is restricted . Because of the dang grizzlies. In this area, there are wonderful colour phase large blacks, in every colour imagined...and you have to just stumble across them , or, if someone has apple trees on their private property, and is having problems with blacks breaking them up as they climb for fruit, is about the surest way to wait and find a nice one. Of course the locals know the woods, and the areas most likely to find spring bears in grass openings, or berry bush patches in fall . Like Alaskan bear hunts, searching along the shore in grass areas does work, but it still is chance. Places where baiting is allowed is the prime way to have a good choice of a large boar with amazing colour, to see sows and cubs , and judge size of the males much better. I wish grizzlies here are managed the way Alaska , Canada and some other countries are. I agree with you Sharon. My wife called me yesterday to let me know she ran into a griz while walking on the state land adjacent to ours. It was mid-day and she had a Bluetooth speaker clipped to her belt loop that was booming an audiobook. The bear was headed out about 100 feet away when she saw it. The speaker is a little obnoxious but its how we travel to make sure we don't surprise a grizzly. I keep six strands of electric fence wire around the house and pasture to keep them out. I'm glad we have them but they are far from threatened in this area and a little management wouldn't hurt. The management is all balled up in politics and I expect the current administration will obstruct any effort to provide management by means of a harvest.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301832 07/08/21 11:14 AM 07/08/21 11:14 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	The woman was 65 yrs old from Chico, CA traveling with a group of cyclists. There musta been others close I would think. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Gary Benson] #7301836 07/08/21 11:21 AM 07/08/21 11:21 AM
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,598 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,598 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Gary Benson The woman was 65 yrs old from Chico, CA traveling with a group of cyclists. There musta been others close I would think. when that grizz has a taste of blood is blowing your rape whistle really going to do much. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: grizz kills woman in Montana town. [Re: Marty] #7301930 07/08/21 02:01 PM 07/08/21 02:01 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,872 meadowview, Virginia E EdP trapper
EdP trapper E Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,872 meadowview, Virginia	I wonder what red tape is involved before F&G can go after the bear. In this instance the other folks in the party drove the bear off but the woman had already died. It could not have been long before the authorities were notified. Once the call goes in that a bear has killed someone it should not take long for dogs to be on that bear's trail. Not much reason for the bear to be able to get away unless bureaucratic roadblocks are being put in the way to intentionally hamper the process.

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