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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303705
07/11/21 11:27 AM
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Claim your fur income along with other job income and write off the 4x4 on taxes. Let uncle buy it for you. They make the rules, use them to best advantage.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303707
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If all you have is your own ground, well you can drive a truck or whatever you want. Out here it is mostly all public ground. A lot of the roads in this area on public ground are open to ATV's and snowmobiles but closed to trucks and anything over 48" wide (only randomly enforced on sidexsides, almost all are overwidth but only one in ten LEOs will bother to enforce it). Plus there are the dedicated ATV trails. I'm on my third ATV, for the mileage you get out of one they are really pretty expensive, 20,000 on an atv and they are pretty much completely worn out.

Because they are popular and legal there are lots of trails that are physically too narrow for anything bigger.

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303708
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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303773
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I bought a Honda 300 TRX in 1990. Still running like new. Use it to haul or drag deer back to the clubhouse skinning shed and to carry hundreds of pounds of bait corn to shooting lanes. I am now 74 and looking at my third knee replacement. I could not hunt by myself without my little ATV.

You do not need a large engine for hunting. Rarely ever go full speed.

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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303783
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The biggest advantage I see in a eBike is getting around on gated lands not opened to motorized vehicles. That’s the itch they scratch for me just need to find enough info on what one fits my needs.

4 wheelers for me are a utility item getting me and gear where it needs to go.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303788
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I bought a rad bike 4 years ago. I hunt 220 acres of cropland along a river bottom. So checking trail cams in 95 degree heat had me looking into one. PLUS the ebike you can put all your clothes on before you go to the stand and not be wet with sweat before getting there. Farmers will frown on riding a 4 wheeler thru the crops. But the e-bike fits nicely around the edge or in the treads of a boom spray after they spray the beans.
Also they are 1400 vs the 3-4 grand for quiet cat.

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303822
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I just bought my first ATV, a new Honda Rancher the end of June. My brothers have had quads and side X sides for years. I never needed one, figured my legs can take me where a P U can't. Used to put miles and miles behind me. They farmed after I got out of actively farming. Now I see things a little differently. My back is shot due to spinal stenosis, a slipped vertebrae, and arthritis in my lower back and now they tell me I am getting cervical stenosis, along with a worn out knee and a bad hip. Don't cover the miles I used to due to pain and numbness and burning and tingling. I ain't quite ready to become a couch fatso. I bought the Rancher to get me around where I want to be hunting sheds, mushrooms, trapping, bowhunting etc. The quad is a little hard to sit on comfortably so I am still in the market for a side X side before I retire. Maybe an E bike or with my ability I'm blessed with I'll build an off road electric trike or scooter or something. Being outdoors and active in many activities that take place outdoors is what fills my soul. A great view, the smell of fresh cut hay or turned dirt, a small fawn or giant buck looking at me from the field edge, or the mystery of what is in my trap around the next bend in the field is what keeps me going. Time to pass it on to the next generation. Can't do that from a recliner, so I'll spend my hard earned money on what ever it takes to keep me outdoors. And in the end it's my wishes in my will to be put in a furnace and then have my remains sprinkled on the family farms and in a couple areas I loved the most. Forever blowing in the wind.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303839
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I think a lot of it depends on how far back in the boonies you willing to walk. I have one area that is 4 miles from the house on a two track, (you couldn't get a vehicle down it) and then another 1/2 mile from where I park. But, I like that kinda of trapping never have met anyone back that far. So the ATV comes in real handy to get from point A to point B. I can also carry a lot of gear, that I don't have to pack, and I can take just for what I need than come back and go to the next spot. Being that I live close to Lake Superior, we can get some real freakish weather, and the ATV with 4 wheel drive has got me out of some real bad spots.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303846
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I had the extra $ laying around .

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303850
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Outside of the Canada post it sounds like if you don’t own your own land there is really no way to use them trapping or hunting in the USA. Couple places out in salt lake desert maybe a couple other places were there is trail riding for just something to do and they charge a daily fee of $25.00 to $50.00 a day. I went to a Honda ATV dealer yesterday and kind of played dumb looking at ATV’s in their show room. The VERY first thing the salesman ask me if I was a farmer. Salesman clammed right up when I asked him if there was any place he knew of in Iowa or any other state were I could use this ATV on public land to hunt or trap with. Salesman kept asking me if I was a farmer. Salesman Tried to match my situation with the need of owning one. I guess that is what a salesman is suppose to do. That kind of says it all for me. You folks that have your own land are very very lucky. MD

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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303854
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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303870
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Ice fishing alone justifies buying one for me. These aging broken beat up handicapped legs need help


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303871
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I put over 18,000 miles on a Honda Foreman trapping and hunting in ND. Mostly trapping miles. I can assure you they that was not all on my 20 acres. I needed it to trap. It was used as a tax right off, so it was easy to justify.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303882
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Originally Posted by martyd
Outside of the Canada post it sounds like if you don’t own your own land there is really no way to use them trapping or hunting in the USA. Couple places out in salt lake desert maybe a couple other places were there is trail riding for just something to do and they charge a daily fee of $25.00 to $50.00 a day. I went to a Honda ATV dealer yesterday and kind of played dumb looking at ATV’s in their show room. The VERY first thing the salesman ask me if I was a farmer. Salesman clammed right up when I asked him if there was any place he knew of in Iowa or any other state were I could use this ATV on public land to hunt or trap with. Salesman kept asking me if I was a farmer. Salesman Tried to match my situation with the need of owning one. I guess that is what a salesman is suppose to do. That kind of says it all for me. You folks that have your own land are very very lucky. MD

I'm not from Canada. From this post it looks like it depends vastly on the area you hunt or trap. Of course if you don't have an ATV it is unlikely you are hunting or trapping in an area where an ATV is needed for access. I put 45,000 on my first two and am up to 12,000 on my current one. Only a couple hundred of those miles on three ATV's were not hunting and/or trapping miles (including scouting). I'm in fairly decent shape and can do twenty miles a day on foot pretty easily, but I can do a hundred miles on an ATV while carrying a heck of a lot more gear. That is five times the ground covered, and for those who are physically impaired, they may not be able to hike with me, but they can do the same mileage I can on an ATV and still have access to all that ground they would not without one.

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303905
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I have four Suzuki’s…400, two 500s, and a 700. The (2006) 700 King Quad stays at camp. I use it in the camp yard, trips over to my aunts place, stocking trout and plowing my driveway. I have a (2004) 400 Eiger that I leave locked up in building every season on 2000 acres of private ground, it’s my hunting and trapping machine. It gets run a lot from late Sept, through Feb. I usually average 600-700 miles a season on it. I have a ( 2001 ) 500 Quadmaster at the house. It gets used in the yard, plowing snow, hauling down garbage can to the highway, moving honey supers at the bee yard, and when I hunt here at the house. I have another ( 1998 ) 500, an old Quadrunner, that is my back up/ spare machine in case I have something break down. I have a plow for it also.

I bought all these machines used, $1850, $1900, $2200, and $3000. Two had less than a thousand miles, the other two, less than two thousand. Three came with plows, all had winches. Good used quads have really went up in price, particularly after all the stimulus monies. The trick is to find one that was a yard machine for elderly folks….not trail ridden by youngsters. I’m always on the lookout for a good used machine.

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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303909
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Originally Posted by martyd
For those folks that do NOT own their own land or lease 100’s of acres to hunt or trap on how do you justify paying $ 8000.00 to $25,000 for a ATV or $2500.00 for a E-Bike ? What am I missing here ? At 62 would like to buy one when I retire but I do not own any land to drive the darn things on. MD


in all the surrounding towns and the one I live in you can now drive on all the streets other than the state highway or ones specifically marked as not ATV in my town it is just the state highway and you can cross it , just not run down it.

this has given a LOT more people a reason for a side by side , they drive around their 1/4 acre yard pick up brush and grass clippings and take them to the compost site , they run to the hardware store or grocery store.

old guys drive UTV around town now stop and chat , run errands , and you can drive out to the farm

it has become the Redneck convertible

I didn't manage to justify one yet myself , I have a little S-10 I drive around the yard and pick up brush and run to the compost or move firewood around. my son calls it his truck but I paid the registration on it and most of the gas that has gone in it I paid for so whenever I want to use it I just do.


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Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303913
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I use it daily on the farm, farm more efficient to put a bag of feed on a 4 wheeler than a pickup. Check cows, fix fence, spraying noxious weeds etc. Great for trapping.

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303916
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One of the best uses for a 4 wheel bike is pushing snow.
We get a lot of snow here and since I put the blade on the bike I only use the snowblower maybe once or twice a winter after a huge storm that makes big drifts.
I keep my entire back yard clear of snow all winter and most of the front yard along with the double driveway.
Its fun pushing snow with the bike in winter.

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Originally Posted by Boco
One of the best uses for a 4 wheel bike is pushing snow.
We get a lot of snow here and since I put the blade on the bike I only use the snowblower maybe once or twice a winter after a huge storm that makes big drifts.
I keep my entire back yard clear of snow all winter and most of the front yard along with the double driveway.
Its fun pushing snow with the bike in winter.

Originally Posted by Boco
One of the best uses for a 4 wheel bike is pushing snow.
We get a lot of snow here and since I put the blade on the bike I only use the snowblower maybe once or twice a winter after a huge storm that makes big drifts.
I keep my entire back yard clear of snow all winter and most of the front yard along with the double driveway.
Its fun pushing snow with the bike in winter.

We had an uncharacteristic 26” snowfall from a December storm here in Pa last year. I was able to clear my camp driveway ( about 100 yards ) with a plow on the 700 KIng Quad. It was like eating an elephant….one small bite at a time. It helped that the driveway was paved, and slightly downhill. I had to chain up the back wheels too. Plowed out across the yard to my woodpile, and down to my shed also.

Re: How do you justify a ATV or E-Bike ? [Re: martyd] #7303925
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Places I need to go that a truck just won’t get out of if it’s wet so the 4 wheeler fits the job they are streetable here but no interest in that for me. I put a 10 foot boom on mine for spraying weeds with it get the job done.


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