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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303652
07/11/21 09:43 AM
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Welcome, pull up a chair and your favorite drink

Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303673
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Does anyone have an abbreviated (shorter version ) of the OP original post ? And welcome to T-Man


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303677
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Welcome Foxtrot92000. This is a great site with tons of information and many, many years of experience all at your fingertips. We all have certain things we like or prefer, such as traps, bait & lures and videos etc. There are lots of choices to make when it comes to trapping, but they are yours to make. Just remember to have fun and be safe!


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303685
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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303751
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There are lots of experienced coyote trappers on here that are willing to share good advise on equipment and methods. Great info in the archives! The only advice I will give is that thinning out coyotes from any specific area is very difficult. Mark June can explain why. But you will have great fun trying. Good luck.

Last edited by Tim64; 07/11/21 01:01 PM.
Re: New to the Forums [Re: MySide 🦝] #7303806
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I was gonna set the pan tension around 5#ís. From the research Iíve done that seems fairly regular. For my cat sets, I was thinking about dropping it closer to 3.5#ís.

Unfortunately, my area has very few Fox. My entire life Iíve only got two red Fox and I know another guy caught two grays trying to get some coyotes for my dad on our farm. Iíve never seen any besides those four in 30 years. So if I catch any foxes Iíll be very surprised. And if they arenít injured Iíll probably release them. I donít mind foxes so much compared to coyotes.

With the big pans, I can always take them off or go back to factory pans if I have any issues. Iím sure Iíll notice a lot of sprung traps, pullouts, or single toes left in traps telling me that itís an issue. I donít mind trying new things and learning, even if that new thing is a horrible idea and I learned I spent time and money for a worse result.

Thank you all for the welcome. Again, sorry for the novel first post.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: HayDay] #7303810
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I live in the South eastern part of the state. Just a stones throw away from Illinois and a short drive from Arkansas.

Iíve also reached out to the state trapping association. Iíll probably be joining to get my hands on some more experience, conventions, baits/lures info, etc.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303832
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Scroll up to the top of the page and click on the chat tab. Scroll down till you see Show Me State trappers and click on that. Lots of guys on that from all over your state. Probably find someone in your area or close by.

Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303851
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MySide, doesnt booger em up any more than a number 3. They are still there.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Law Dog] #7303874
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Welcome consider trapping when you start as a empty tool box people will give you tools but they wonít all fit it that box so you will need to figure what tools are best for you. Lots of gimmick out there so choose wisely.


^^Wisdom with a capital "W" right here^^.... L- Dog, I can see you have been around. wink

Welcome Foxtrot92000!


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303904
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I'm going to go against the standard wisdom here, I like lighter pan tensions. The exception being if I am trying to avoid nontarget animals that are considerably lighter than my target animal. I've never ran oversize pans, so I can't comment on them, but in my mind, if the foot is setting on the pan it is in the same place when the trap goes off whether than animal is stepping down with #2 or #10 of force, so the trap should grab it in the same place, and I want the trap to go off when an animal puts its foot on the pan, not when it decides to jump up and down on it. You get a decent amount of pan tension from the springs, anyways. The old longsprings I started out with all have floppy pans, and when you set them those pans take a noticeable amount of poundage to set off. Most of my newer traps with adjustable pans I adjust down to either floppy or very close to, when you set a fourcoiled coilspring or a #3 or #4 longspring, the tension from the spring is going to give it at least a couple pounds tension, often more. I've never had an issue with misses or toe catches from this, on the other hand, I have seen tracks all over traps set with more pan tension, particularly when you get a little freezing crust or something else that stiffens up the covering and requires more pressure to depress the pan.
The exception to this is when I don't want cats and coyotes plugging up my wolf traps, I will stiffen up the pan tension so they can walk on them without setting them off (you will still get the occasional coyote, I swear they sometimes pounce on a trap). Problem I ran into with this is that if your lure or bait is good, oftentimes the coyote will roll or dig or scratch after walking over the trap, then you end up with the trap exposed or set off anyways and pretty much defeated your purpose.

Re: New to the Forums [Re: 330-Trapper] #7303914
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Welcome to Tman!

Wolfdog and Danny have some good Advice.

Go to the Archives and read....its the best info out there.

Watch all your States Game laws , especially regarding trap size as your plans include some - too big for species traps. That part mentioned above is very real. I use MB650's for yotes but some of the Top trappers love the MB 550's

I myself don't like big pans. If I did use them it would only be for bobcats.

Enjoy and read the Archives.


grin

My thoughts also. Listen to Wolfdog and Danny, and as 330 says, stay away from big pans and read archives posts.

Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303932
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Over time you will settle on your own style and what works best for you. I do live market and foot damage is one of my main points I focus on. My go to trap is the # 2 Bridger or square jaw Duke traps. I also inside and and outside laminations. I use 2 coil and haven't seen pull out problems here. 3 swivels minimum as a bound up trap chain leads to foot damage quick. Welcome to the best information on the net.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303936
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Never said big pans where bad, how ever for the average trappers who's not willing to do some thinking and work with them some I wouldn't recommend them. They don't work for most people because most people aren't will to work with them
You CANNOT use the same pan tension you do on a normal pan trap. I could talk for a long time about the in and out but meh....

Last edited by Wolfdog91; 07/11/21 06:15 PM.

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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7303938
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Originally Posted by Foxtrot92000
I was gonna set the pan tension around 5#ís. From the research Iíve done that seems fairly regular. For my cat sets, I was thinking about dropping it closer to 3.5#ís.

Unfortunately, my area has very few Fox. My entire life Iíve only got two red Fox and I know another guy caught two grays trying to get some coyotes for my dad on our farm. Iíve never seen any besides those four in 30 years. So if I catch any foxes Iíll be very surprised. And if they arenít injured Iíll probably release them. I donít mind foxes so much compared to coyotes.

With the big pans, I can always take them off or go back to factory pans if I have any issues. Iím sure Iíll notice a lot of sprung traps, pullouts, or single toes left in traps telling me that itís an issue. I donít mind trying new things and learning, even if that new thing is a horrible idea and I learned I spent time and money for a worse result.

Thank you all for the welcome. Again, sorry for the novel first post.

No need to apologize about the length of the post. I for one enjoyed reading it. You figure out how you like your traps, if you like em great! If not you can always change them!!! Happy trapping, and welcome to the forum.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Leftlane] #7303952
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
Welcome to our dysfunctional lil family cool

The one in TX?


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: GROUSEWIT] #7303953
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Originally Posted by GROUSEWIT
Originally Posted by Leftlane
Welcome to our dysfunctional lil family cool

The one in TX?

grin


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7304031
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Welcome to trapperman. It's a great place to waste time. LOL.


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Re: New to the Forums [Re: Foxtrot92000] #7304209
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welcome , and thanks for your service

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