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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304192
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I ask my financial guy this question , and he said pay cash ,which surprise me

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: andrews1958] #7304213
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Originally Posted by andrews1958
My wife and I have always put away an imaginary payment every month so when it comes time to buy one we have the cash in hand. Whatever you do do not tell the dealership that you are paying cash. Make your deal as though you are going to buy it on credit as this is where the dealerships make their money. Once the deal is cut tell them you are paying cash. Do some research on YouTube.


Yep. we do the same thing.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: midlander] #7304219
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Originally Posted by midlander
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Inflation is going to run north of 3 percent this year. If you can borrow money for less than that there really isn't a negative downside to doing it.


Yes, there is...risk. market tanks and you lose your job ...there goes your truck. Market tanks and you get in an accident and cant work....there goes your truck. Etc etc
Just looking at things based on the percentages and numbers without factoring in risk seems foolish. I enjoy many of your posts on here about the financial markets, but we'll probably have to agree to disagree on this one.


You must not have read his ENTIRE post He has the money in the bank . So if market tanks or he looses his job he can THEN pay off the truck. OR trade it in for something less expense and live off the money in HIS account . Vehicles can be found at any price if you NEED one. But once his money is gone his safty net goes with it !!!

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Cragar] #7304222
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Originally Posted by Cragar
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Dave Ramsey has helped create and personally knows more “everyday millionaires “ than all of us put together.
He consistently preaches “ do not borrow money to buy a vechille” or a vehicle for that matter.
The amount of disinformation and down right wrong statements as fact is stunning. IE. the salesperson makes more commission when the car or truck is financed this is simply not true. Puzzle me this, if a car is sold with a 60 month 0% interest loan, where pray tell does the “extra “ commission come from?

Just like everything at a stealership , zero financing is a scam.

Article from Dave Ramsey's website -
https://www.ramseysolutions.com/debt/zero-percent-financing


I can’t agree with very much with the article from Ramsey’s website, but then I think most of what Ramsey says is crap. He just wants you to buy his books and get hooked on his programs.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: greenhead] #7304224
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Originally Posted by greenhead
Pay cash if you have it. As Dave ramsey says cash is king.


Yea that's WHY he needs to keep his !! You talking about the same guy that says rent , don't buy a house. Take a cab instead of buy a car ? That guy. One that became a millionaire from fools buying his step program to financial freedom?

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304226
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Dave Ramsey is an idio t28% on a car loan ? I bought my last chevy at 0% interest for 72 months. Got the price for my trade -in and the vehicle in writing. 4800 below sticker , 29,000 trade in on a 2011 crew cab . Back in 2014. THEN the loan was calculated.
He must be talking about furniture or Mexican car lots... Or just spewing nonsense for others to believe.

PLUS he warns of a pandemic. LOL folks around here were making out like bandits because of covid hand outs STILL ARE . 1152 bucks a week during 600 fed money. Now 852 bucks. No wonder they won't go back to work ! Even with Ky math for a 40 hr work week that's over 20 bucks an hour !!!

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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304251
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Didnt read whole thread.
Pay cash but not for a new car. Never buy new. Low mileage 2 -3 yr old one.


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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304270
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First off a vehicle is not an investment. It is a tool just like a hammer or a screw driver. The idea of putting your cash in the stock market and buying the vehicle with a loan if flawed. Vehicle loans are short term and what stock market investment will guarantee a positive return for the next one to five years? What works best for me is to use as much cash as possible. Then I take out a five year loan at the low interest they will offer. Next step is to pay it off in one year. That's what I did with my 2017,2018 & 2021 Silverado's. Well the 2021 is only one month old and I have only made one payment, but I'm on track to pay it off in one year. BTW I don't care what Dave Ramsey or Bruce Williams is selling. Only ME knows what is best for ME. If I want a new truck and if I want to only keep it until the factory warrantee is used up I will do it even if Ramsey thinks I'm wasting money.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: ebsurveyor] #7304288
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We just buy a used vehicle and save that roughly 40-50% of the new cost and borrow the rest. Yes there is risk in borrowing money but if I lost my job on the short term I would prefer to have the cash I used to buy the car for living expenses etc. Over time we learn which risks are very low versus high. Typically items that produce little or are expensive and not really needed to live and work are the more risky investments even with your own cash.

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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304310
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I have done both,but too many dealers offering zero percent financing to pay cash these days.Just my opinion.


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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: beeman] #7304312
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Originally Posted by beeman

I can’t agree with very much with the article from Ramsey’s website, but then I think most of what Ramsey says is crap. He just wants you to buy his books and get hooked on his programs.


It's a proven system to get out of debt and build wealth. I listen to the people who have done it and built real wealth, not some person on the internet with an opinion.

We have followed the plan for 18 yrs and have zero 0 debt and on track to have a paid for house and have a seven figure net worth by age 45.

BTW, I have not bought anything from them in 15yrs.

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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: midlander] #7304319
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Originally Posted by midlander
Cash
Everybody here telling you how wise it is to borrow money never ever mentions the 'other' factor involved with borrowing ...RISK.
100% of all homes and vehicles repossesed had a loan against them. Who could have ever predicted the sudden loss of jobs in the past year and a half? Who can predict the next calamity that could cause loss of income..unexpected layoff, umexpected medical emergency, etc..?
Pay cash, then sock all the extra money you want into the market...win win


Yep. There is a certain freedom and peace which comes with oweing no one anything.

Proverbs 22:7 (NIV), “The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender.”

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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: ILcooner] #7304336
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
Originally Posted by beeman

I can’t agree with very much with the article from Ramsey’s website, but then I think most of what Ramsey says is crap. He just wants you to buy his books and get hooked on his programs.


It's a proven system to get out of debt and build wealth. I listen to the people who have done it and built real wealth, not some person on the internet with an opinion.

We have followed the plan for 18 yrs and have zero 0 debt and on track to have a paid for house and have a seven figure net worth by age 45.

BTW, I have not bought anything from them in 15yrs.


Where did the "money" come from to "invest in his program?
Who's them" What are you driving?
OK are you "on track" or is your house paid for ? Must be if you don't owe anything to anyone.
Not many working class can do that legally or without a silver spoon in some opening...

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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304340
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I will add My wife and I have been out of debt for 5 years now. Will I finance a car, land, ? Yes I'm 58 , shes 61, We have pretty substantial savings . BUT we won't spend it on any big ticket item because we want to enjoy that money. Why pay 250,000 for a farm that is a weekend play ground, and then have to watch your spending on buying "toys" to play on that land. Finance it. Pay 25,000 down. .30 year mortgage (we won't live that long) and enjoy it as long as we can along with the money you still have. As others have pointed out it will appreiciate in value. When were are dead the heirs can continue paying for it or sell it and keep the money left over. IF AND ONLY IF we were younger then I would consider paying cash. But only God knows what tomorrow brings. NOW tell me how much I will spend in interest .LOL Don't care it's not my primary home . My home is free and clear from debt. PLUS if I get too sick to enjoy the land it's sold with little or no strings attached.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: ILcooner] #7304343
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
Originally Posted by midlander
Cash
Everybody here telling you how wise it is to borrow money never ever mentions the 'other' factor involved with borrowing ...RISK.
100% of all homes and vehicles repossesed had a loan against them. Who could have ever predicted the sudden loss of jobs in the past year and a half? Who can predict the next calamity that could cause loss of income..unexpected layoff, umexpected medical emergency, etc..?
Pay cash, then sock all the extra money you want into the market...win win


Yep. There is a certain freedom and peace which comes with oweing no one anything.

Proverbs 22:7 (NIV), “The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is slave to the lender.”

Yes, unfortunately , too many folks dont mind being slave to the lender. Cracks me up when they get mad and try knocking Ramsey simply because they dont have the fortitude to get out of debt themselves. Silver spoons have nothing to do with it. Common sense and commitment is all it takes.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304357
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I think it depends on if you plan to keep the vehicle for a long time. If you do, then pay cash. If you are the type who likes a newer vehicle every few years, finance.
I agree with Marathon, better to buy used than new. A new vehicle depreciates too much in the first year or two. An example: I bought a truck that listed new for $42,000 two years later used for $28,000. It had 23,000 miles on it.


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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Trapper7] #7304363
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I think it depends on if you plan to keep the vehicle for a long time. If you do, then pay cash. If you are the type who likes a newer vehicle every few years, finance.
I agree with Marathon, better to buy used than new. A new vehicle depreciates too much in the first year or two. An example: I bought a truck that listed new for $42,000 two years later used for $28,000. It had 23,000 miles on it.

I agree Trapper, Ive never purchased new. I always hated to think about the immediate depreciation the second it drives off the lot.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304404
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This is almost as good as a vaccine or mask thread. Haha.


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Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: jbyrd63] #7304406
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That method may work for you jbyrd but I will not be slave to any lender just to have a few more toys in the barn. There is pure freedom in debt free living.

Re: Pay cash or finance a new vechile? [Re: Gary Benson] #7304432
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Anyone that insists there's only one correct answer isn't qualified to even be giving advice.
Everyone has their own situation to consider.

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