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Cuba ready to topple? #7304311
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Protests in the streets of Havana. Miami Mayor calls for US intervention.



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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304348
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Sounds like Cuba is ripe for our United States dictators to step in and assume control. I bet the Cuban Citizens could be bribed with much smaller stimulous checks and child payments.

Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: walleye101] #7304356
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Sounds like Cuba is ripe for our United States dictators to step in and assume control. I bet the Cuban Citizens could be bribed with much smaller stimulous checks and child payments.


Absolutely not! We have a somewhat checkered history in Cuba and should not directly intervene. However, should the Cuban people ask for support we should within reason provide support. Ultimately the Cuban people must win their freedom and decide their destiny for themselves.


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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304358
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Socialist country, Dems will probably want them to be our 51st state.


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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304360
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I would think solid republican demographic. Most immigrants from socialist states know the difference.


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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304361
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We should offer guidance if asked. Russia had an interest in Cuba in the 60s. We don't want that to happen again.


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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304362
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Dont you guys already have a bay named after you from the last time you tried to help?

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by walleye101
Sounds like Cuba is ripe for our United States dictators to step in and assume control. I bet the Cuban Citizens could be bribed with much smaller stimulous checks and child payments.


Absolutely not! We have a somewhat checkered history in Cuba and should not directly intervene. However, should the Cuban people ask for support we should within reason provide support. Ultimately the Cuban people must win their freedom and decide their destiny for themselves.


Warrior, That was sarcasm, the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. I actually do not condone the use of bribery on our citizens or theirs, no matter how effective it seems to be.

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Originally Posted by kingrat
Dont you guys already have a bay named after you from the last time you tried to help?

Long term outlook on U.S interventions in Latin American countries is not so good, need to let the Cubans sort this out themselves.

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I thought most Cubans would be smart enough to know they would just be trading one dictator for another one.

Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304377
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Originally Posted by walleye101


Warrior, That was sarcasm, the use of irony to mock or convey contempt. I actually do not condone the use of bribery on our citizens or theirs, no matter how effective it seems to be.


Sorry, it didn't carry over into text. I don't think the Sniffer wants any part of Cuba his state dept has done tweeted out a comment about these COVID protests in Cuba. You know they will back the Castros.


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Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7304379
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by kingrat
Dont you guys already have a bay named after you from the last time you tried to help?

Long term outlook on U.S interventions in Latin American countries is not so good, need to let the Cubans sort this out themselves.


Absolutely, I'm okay with humanitarian aid such as food and medicine. Possibly just enough force to prevent the Castros from killing folks but the boots on the ground has to be the Cubans themselves.

Of course if a few crates of noisemakers happen to wash ashore who am I to tell them what to do with them.


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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Socialist country, Dems will probably want them to be our 51st state.

Not so sure about that. Dems do very poorly with those of Cuban descent here electorally now.

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Just parachute drop a bunch of crates of Asks and ammo and RPGs, and let them decide their own destiny.

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Originally Posted by warrior


Absolutely, I'm okay with humanitarian aid such as food and medicine. Possibly just enough force to prevent the Castros from killing folks but the boots on the ground has to be the Cubans themselves.

Of course if a few crates of noisemakers happen to wash ashore who am I to tell them what to do with them.

Haven't seen the numbers lately but I think the US is still Cuba's biggest food source?

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We have stuck our nose in worse places. If we do go in we need to go in to win and make it a democracy. Not half commies or socialism.

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I'm sure if Cubans became US citizens they would not vote socialist. We need more anti-left wing people voting.

Re: Cuba ready to topple? [Re: warrior] #7304444
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I just don't understand-----

A political demonstration at the US Capitol building on January 6 is being treated an an insurrection and called treason, with people headed to prison. No one from Cuba tried to step in and provide assistance or support to the demonstrators.

But now, lots of people in the US are calling for support and assistance to people participating in civil unrest and antigovernment activity in Cuba.

Funny things happen when shoes change feet.

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Originally Posted by 1oldforester
I just don't understand-----

A political demonstration at the US Capitol building on January 6 is being treated an an insurrection and called treason, with people headed to prison. No one from Cuba tried to step in and provide assistance or support to the demonstrators.

But now, lots of people in the US are calling for support and assistance to people participating in civil unrest and antigovernment activity in Cuba.

Funny things happen when shoes change feet.

What shoe changed? The people calling Jan 6 an insurrection are not about to support the Cuban protestors. Most of the people calling for the Jan 6 commission wear Che shirts. Che would of killed all those protestors this weekend. Or at least the leaders of it.

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