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Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: Gary Benson] #7305219 07/13/21 03:46 PM 07/13/21 03:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon beaverpeeler trapper
beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon	What cheap labor???? I want what you're smoking. BTW, taxpayers are actually benefitted by billions pouring into the social security fund from a segment of the workforce that will never see any of the benefits. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7305237 07/13/21 04:29 PM 07/13/21 04:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,335 East-Central Wisconsin B bblwi trapper
bblwi trapper B Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,335 East-Central Wisconsin	I had the opportunity to have several students from Columbia and Costa Rica in the dairy classes I taught at the tech college. Costa Rica was a great place to live, work, and tour. I would not say the same for Columbia then or now. Most students were from middle class Columbian farms where the owners actually worked with employees etc. Some were very wealthy and had others do all their work. They knew several of the members that were involved in the drug trade and there were actually a lot of registered cattle bought here in the USA as a way to launder drug money back home. Lot of visitors from Miami as well. The reason for compliance is that ones life expectancy increased greatly by rowing in the boat. Bryce

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7305302 07/13/21 06:59 PM 07/13/21 06:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,460 Oregon H H2ORat trapper
H2ORat trapper H Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,460 Oregon	Originally Posted by beaverpeeler What cheap labor???? I want what you're smoking. BTW, taxpayers are actually benefitted by billions pouring into the social security fund from a segment of the workforce that will never see any of the benefits. yes but how many are paid cash under the table -- I know alot of farms having to do this this year. -- new trend - I think not.

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: Gary Benson] #7305326 07/13/21 07:22 PM 07/13/21 07:22 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,929 Ohio S stinkypete trapper
stinkypete trapper S Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 3,929 Ohio	Fellas. I hate to bust your bubble. Socialism is here. Watch what happens in the next year.

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: John C] #7305336 07/13/21 07:34 PM 07/13/21 07:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 5,570 Dunbar, Wisconsin P Pike River trapper
Pike River trapper P Joined: Oct 2018 Posts: 5,570 Dunbar, Wisconsin	Originally Posted by John C Originally Posted by Cedar Hacker Come down here and you can meet a bunch of them every day down at the jail house. Bunches of them get by the border patrol and the local law arrests them. Do any of you people ever stop and think that maybe those coming from Central and South America will lie to you ? Most of them are here because they are lying. Most use a fake name and use someone elses ssn to get employment. As an employer I can not ask about their immigration status or question them about their SSN or the fact that most of them claim 5-7 dependents even though I know they have three living in the house(including themselves). The only time I can ask is if they will be required to go onto a federal military installation or a federal building or a job that requires certified payroll. Then if they don't answer honestly it causes us a lot of headache and BS and they lose their job and potentially get arrested/deported. Wrong - as an employer you have a responsibility to ensure they can work legally. That is the whole purpose of the form I9

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: H2ORat] #7305347 07/13/21 08:04 PM 07/13/21 08:04 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon beaverpeeler trapper
beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon	Originally Posted by H2ORat Originally Posted by beaverpeeler What cheap labor???? I want what you're smoking. BTW, taxpayers are actually benefitted by billions pouring into the social security fund from a segment of the workforce that will never see any of the benefits. yes but how many are paid cash under the table -- I know alot of farms having to do this this year. -- new trend - I think not. If you pay under the table how do you write off your labor expense? From my experience the vast majority are paid via payroll like everybody else. Those with fictitious SS #'s are issued an ITIN # by the federal government. This number is used for paying their taxes (yes, they pay taxes). However even if they have paid into the SS system for years if they are injured they have no right to the SS benefits, Nor is there any provision for ever receiving an SS check in the future as long as they remain undocumented or "illegal". Last edited by beaverpeeler; 07/13/21 08:05 PM. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: Gary Benson] #7305356 07/13/21 08:22 PM 07/13/21 08:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,488 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,488 james bay frontierOnt.	When you pay people under the table you can hide profits. A double whammy to the honest taxpayer(govt). Last edited by Boco; 07/13/21 08:23 PM. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: Gary Benson] #7305368 07/13/21 08:34 PM 07/13/21 08:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon beaverpeeler trapper
beaverpeeler trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 11,170 Oregon	I guess if you get paid in cash that is possible. My fear of moving stairs is escalating!

Re: Met a guy from Venezuela today.. [Re: beaverpeeler] #7305709 07/14/21 10:10 AM 07/14/21 10:10 AM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 16,240 ny U upstateNY trapper
upstateNY trapper U Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 16,240 ny	Originally Posted by beaverpeeler What cheap labor???? I want what you're smoking. BTW, taxpayers are actually benefitted by billions pouring into the social security fund from a segment of the workforce that will never see any of the benefits. What work force?All the bums staying home because they can make more doing that than going to work? the wheels of the gods turn very slowly

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