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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Dirt] #7303775
07/11/21 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by nimzy
What no price predictions? Not even price trend direction? Have we lost hope? I suppose a battering in last 18 months has interest softened to submission.

Fingers crossed for FHA! (With selfish motives)



I predicted a 8 year slump in prices before we started increasing prices again. It has been about 8 years since 2014. Similar pattern from '97 to ' 05 However, the change in that time period came from expanding into new markets of Russia and China. Not expanding into new markets anymore? China appears to be able to control prices these days and will work hard to keep them low.


A local mink rancher ( who has since pelted out) told me in 2015 it would be depressed for 7 years I hope he knows more than you. Lol.
China has benefited from low prices that came amidst oversupply. Hopefully as supply is corrected pressure will push prices. Don’t know what’s left for demand on high priced furs. Time will tell. There appears to be light at the end of the tunnel, with inventory being liquidated For that I am optimistic.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7303867
07/11/21 03:53 PM
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We need the consumer nations' economies to fire up. For that we need crude oil up over $75 a barrel probably. I think were getting there.

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 07/11/21 03:54 PM.

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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: beaverpeeler] #7303889
07/11/21 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
We need the consumer nations' economies to fire up. For that we need crude oil up over $75 a barrel probably. I think were getting there.


So, you're hoping old Joe shuts down a couple more pipelines?

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7303895
07/11/21 04:45 PM
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Nah, he's just realistic realizing all the money that the Trump administration printed followed by the Biden administration doubling down and the effects that the coming devaluation of the dollar will have on fur prices.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304032
07/11/21 08:25 PM
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Just a friggin' optimist mostly. smile


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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304082
07/11/21 09:51 PM
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Oil up,.catalyst to higher and higher coon prices!,..heard that for a couple decades now. grin,..still we hope.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Steven 49er] #7304105
07/11/21 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Nah, he's just realistic realizing all the money that the Trump administration printed followed by the Biden administration doubling down and the effects that the coming devaluation of the dollar will have on fur prices.



Here it is again. lol


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: LLtrapper] #7304210
07/12/21 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Nah, he's just realistic realizing all the money that the Trump administration printed followed by the Biden administration doubling down and the effects that the coming devaluation of the dollar will have on fur prices.



Here it is again. lol


Do you have a rebuttal?


Got them coon traps ready and going to gamble the market will improve?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304267
07/12/21 09:02 AM
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Even if coon prices double it's still not worth it, and while I think prices will be up a buck or two I will not skin any.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Steven 49er] #7304337
07/12/21 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Nah, he's just realistic realizing all the money that the Trump administration printed followed by the Biden administration doubling down and the effects that the coming devaluation of the dollar will have on fur prices.



Marten are worth less than a sheet of 7/16" OSB. Take a few marten to build an outhouse. Thanks gubmint!


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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304430
07/12/21 02:19 PM
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I sent in a string of coyotes and a sack of rats for this sale. The hope was that they'd open the country by now.... The last sale, with pictures evidently, was somewhat encouraging. I think the rats and coyotes will do OK. Marten still in the freezer.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304822
07/12/21 10:54 PM
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Does anyone have their account updated to show your fur yet? I sent fresh fur in April and my account isn’t showing it yet.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304938
07/13/21 07:02 AM
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My account is not updated either

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: BvrRetriever] #7304944
07/13/21 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Does anyone have their account updated to show your fur yet? I sent fresh fur in April and my account isn’t showing it yet.


Nope not yet, the accounts are not updated until the last catalogues are posted. It usually happens fairly fast after that.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304963
07/13/21 07:49 AM
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Steven I have no rebuttal and I actually agree with you. The point was made some time back that I made my point about FHA and NAFA and should let it go and I said to you I will let that go when you let go of the printing money thing. Just showing you that when something is frustrating it is frustrating. Time usually don't change that unless what was wrong stops happening. FHA is still having online auctions and the US is still printing money. Oh and it has nothing to do with Trump now so we can drop that too. lol, LLL


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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7304966
07/13/21 07:50 AM
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And I have no plans on trapping a thing this season again. Maybe a few beaver if I get calls. LLL


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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7305645
07/14/21 08:39 AM
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I’ll be trapping come December, it’s one of my better habits. With some luck FHA will put a spring back in our step. It’s overdue.

Markets are delicate and complicated I’m shocked that trappers aren’t more curious about the forces that drive their activities.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: Saskfly] #7305648
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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Does anyone have their account updated to show your fur yet? I sent fresh fur in April and my account isn’t showing it yet.


Nope not yet, the accounts are not updated until the last catalogues are posted. It usually happens fairly fast after that.



Usually in the past accounts would at least show quantities of fur received well before the auction, then grades would show up when the catalogues are posted. I'm not even seeing quantities received yet.

Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: nimzy] #7305788
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Originally Posted by nimzy
I’ll be trapping come December, it’s one of my better habits. With some luck FHA will put a spring back in our step. It’s overdue.

Markets are delicate and complicated I’m shocked that trappers aren’t more curious about the forces that drive their activities.


Read a trapper survey. Most trappers primary motive is not economic. So market forces do not drive their activities; entertainment value does. Most are scoring points on how their fur grades, not what it sells for. If they scored on what it sells for in the year 2021 they wouldn't be happy. They want to be in a happy place.


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Re: FHA Offering July Auction [Re: BvrRetriever] #7305804
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
Does anyone have their account updated to show your fur yet? I sent fresh fur in April and my account isn’t showing it yet.


I hear Dimetrios is working overtime on his abacus.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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