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Re: FHA [Re: NonPCfed] #7322906
08/05/21 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
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If you want prices to get better, STOP SENDING THE MARKET ITEMS THEY DONT WANT!!

The fur market has told us all, no, screamed at us, that they have no interest in most coon and beaver. Stop shoving unwanted pelts into the market. Trap the pelts that are worth something, and if you are trapping worthless fur for fun or damage control, either tan and use them yourself, find a secondary market, or pitch them in the ditch.

I know I’m talking to a wall here, but if we all did that for a couple seasons you’d see higher prices than you ever dreamed were possible. Anyone sending coon into this market is just kicking the market while it’s down.


You are so wise for your years. Dam, I wish I was the Dai Lama at 31 (or is it 32 now?). How did your bcats do, didn't you sell them at one of the western "state" markets? Does your logic hold for for western cats, if you stop sending in and selling at $200-300, maybe they'll go back to $600 to a grand when the supply dries up...?

I didn't trap cats last year. But 300 is about my average for our type cats on good years shocked


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7322911
08/05/21 11:47 PM
08/05/21 11:47 PM
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red mt just send me 100 bucks and I will tell you how to do it. That can be USD or loonies.

seems that they are starting at the low end of fur like squirrels and telling guys |" don't send in"
they paid more than muskrats which paid more than racoon etc-etc
prices are rising from the bottom going up the chain of size of pelts

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323072
08/06/21 09:16 AM
08/06/21 09:16 AM
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no body is getting rich in the fur industry but you dont hear groney or the auction complaining the auction just selling a small percent of the furs offered and still pay there bills and stay open grooney giving away four wheelers at nta sweepstakes every one should give them a 100 dollars along with your furs so you can keep trapping and have a place to go with them

Re: FHA [Re: Northof50] #7323144
08/06/21 11:10 AM
08/06/21 11:10 AM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by Northof50
red mt just send me 100 bucks and I will tell you how to do it. That can be USD or loonies.

seems that they are starting at the low end of fur like squirrels and telling guys |" don't send in"
they paid more than muskrats which paid more than racoon etc-etc
prices are rising from the bottom going up the chain of size of pelts


Well I don't see much change in wild mink prices so that blows that theory. lol, LLL


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323151
08/06/21 11:20 AM
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Big difference between a $3 coon and a $300 cat. At $300 I can come out ahead, can you do that on $3 coon? You can’t even justify the time it takes to skin one for that price. It’s apples to oranges. But yes, the logic still holds. If buyers need cats, and there are very few cats, they will compete harder for them and drive up the price. Right now there are few buyers needing coon and a pipeline shoved full and it keeps getting more heaped on top. There’s no competition for them, so they can pretty much pay whatever they want.

And, if you’d been paying attention, I only had one cat to sell this year. I spent my time and effort trapping coyotes….because that’s what the market wants


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323156
08/06/21 11:29 AM
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Wild mink and beaver have never reached boom prices in the last 30 years. That trend will continue. I suspect.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323169
08/06/21 11:41 AM
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I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.

I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there.

Last edited by beaverpeeler; 08/06/21 12:04 PM.

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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323191
08/06/21 12:18 PM
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Did not set a coon trap last year. Won’t this year either. I trapped all winter. Got paid to trap beaver and trapped rats and otter along the way.
There’s other critters to trap other than coon. If ZERO coon were put on the market, we’d see an improvement in prices, although it wouldn’t be immediately.
If soybeans went to .50 cents a bushel due to overproduction and lack of demand, farmers would plant some other crop that WAS in demand.
Quit trapping coon guys. Scratch the itch on another species of critter.

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7323215
08/06/21 01:04 PM
08/06/21 01:04 PM
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Big difference between a $3 coon and a $300 cat. At $300 I can come out ahead, can you do that on $3 coon? You can’t even justify the time it takes to skin one for that price. It’s apples to oranges. But yes, the logic still holds. If buyers need cats, and there are very few cats, they will compete harder for them and drive up the price. Right now there are few buyers needing coon and a pipeline shoved full and it keeps getting more heaped on top. There’s no competition for them, so they can pretty much pay whatever they want.


Where do you see the pipeline "shoved full" with coon, Bob?? FHA offered what, less than a 100,000 at this sale, most were leftovers from the April sale. During good years in the past, over a million coon were sold between NAFA and FHA so I don't see where your "heaped to the top" has any reality except it sounds cool when you say it. And no, I wouldn't trap coon for $3, certainly not finishing them, but I have sold very few coon at $3. Maybe that paradigm has truly changed, we'll see with more data over time. I'm a low volume guy with limited time to trap, yotes are far fewer around peri-urban areas than coon, and people have problems with coons. If you read some of my posts, the coons I sent to FHA (first time to them) this spring were almost all donated to me so It was something to do as listened to the news or music in my garage. How much fuel did you burn up bouncing around the Nevada shrub lands versus what you got for your yotes?? Did it pay fast-food wages when you penciled everything out in the end...? You did it for as much fun as you did it for for coin...


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Re: FHA [Re: beaverpeeler] #7323218
08/06/21 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.

I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there.

That is where I am at with beaver......skulls, meat, oil sacs, castor, fur....about $30 average.

Re: FHA [Re: mike mason] #7323241
08/06/21 02:08 PM
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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Originally Posted by mike mason
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
I have always felt like I needed to see beaver averages in the mid 20's (at a minimum) to be worthwhile going after. The last couple of years castor is averaging between $15-$19 per beaver for me so selling a few carcasses, oil sacs and heads plus maybe $8-10 for the pelts gets me where I need to be.

I will add, if I didn't make a profit trapping I wouldn't be out there.

That is where I am at with beaver......skulls, meat, oil sacs, castor, fur....about $30 average.


I average 125.00 per beaver and get paid as soon as the job is done. Also sell the castor, oil sacs and pelts when in season. Skulls too. Very few trapping beaver around here. They call when they need them gone. Way more than I want. LLL


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Re: FHA [Re: Joe1] #7323270
08/06/21 03:04 PM
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I have not targeted a coon in several years.. Year before last, I caught about 70 in my coyote traps, mostly 3&4 X, and last year I caught exactly 2 on my coyote line. One other in a cage trap, protecting my chickens and guineas. Not a coon trail or road kill all winter and late spring. Kinda glad to see them go, but it's a dang shame. We had a very pretty coon here wher I'm at!


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Re: FHA [Re: red mt] #7462433
01/16/22 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
Originally Posted by Bob
If you want prices to get better, STOP SENDING THE MARKET ITEMS THEY DONT WANT!!

The fur market has told us all, no, screamed at us, that they have no interest in most coon and beaver. Stop shoving unwanted pelts into the market. Trap the pelts that are worth something, and if you are trapping worthless fur for fun or damage control, either tan and use them yourself, find a secondary market, or pitch them in the ditch.

I know I’m talking to a wall here, but if we all did that for a couple seasons you’d see higher prices than you ever dreamed were possible. Anyone sending coon into this market is just kicking the market while it’s down.

Where is the like button


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Re: FHA [Re: Dirt] #7462816
01/16/22 06:28 PM
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I got $70 Canadian for a nice male mink back in 2013 at NAFA.

Re: FHA [Re: scootermac] #7462843
01/16/22 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scootermac
I got $70 Canadian for a nice male mink back in 2013 at NAFA.

A few things missing in this now^^^^^

$70 for a wild mink...2013....and NAFA.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7462847
01/16/22 07:01 PM
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Anyone have a link with results? How much were rats?


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