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Re: FHA [Re: Northof50] #7309509
07/19/21 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Northof50
Originally Posted by MySide 🦝
Lets all take a second and give it up to wissmiss for listening and answering our complaints about FHA and the market LOL


I'm sure that she can give you her address and you can ship her a case of lobsters, once the season opens on the dock are they not going for 2$ each ?

lol
Season already came and went, there will be a later season though.
Right now it's going for about 15$ a pound or something like that whole, or processed knuckles, tails ect. for 50$ a pound.

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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309605
07/20/21 12:00 AM
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Is there a link to watch the auctions live like they have done in the past?

Re: FHA [Re: furiousfarmer] #7309643
07/20/21 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by furiousfarmer
Is there a link to watch the auctions live like they have done in the past?


No. This is not a live auction. No auctioneer. No bidders in the room. No video. No audio. It is all on line and controlled by a computer. It is like watching paint dry.

Only registered bidders have access to the “live” auction catalog.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309723
07/20/21 08:07 AM
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Coyote have been selling for an hour. They are on page 6 of 34. Looks like another 5 hours or so of coyote. Then muskrat.

So far all the coyotes have sold.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309724
07/20/21 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Coyote have been selling for an hour. They are on page 6 of 34. Looks like another 5 hours or so of coyote. Then muskrat.

So far all the coyotes have sold.



Were many bids posted beforehand wissmiss or is most bidding occurred just before an item closes. How they’re doing this is interesting.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309736
07/20/21 08:27 AM
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Most of the coyote lots on the first 6 pages had bids well before closing. I wasn’t paying that much attention so I don’t know if there were any last minute bids or not.

The way it is set up, you have to have your timing down just right if you are going to bid at the last minute. A lot of online auctions have a soft close. FHA has a hard close, which makes things a bit more complicated.

Now that FHA has had several online auctions, buyers are getting used to the system and are figuring out bidding strategies.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309738
07/20/21 08:33 AM
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Bidding strategies??? I thought all the buyers hold hands and draw straws to decide who gets what lots at a basement level price..??

Just a little sarcasm. Before someone gets offended

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Re: FHA [Re: Yes sir] #7309740
07/20/21 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Bidding strategies??? I thought all the buyers hold hands and draw straws to decide who gets what lots at a basement level price..??


One would think that’s a bit more difficult to do when remote, but who knows. I’m sure it’s a work in progress figuring how to game a new system lol


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309771
07/20/21 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Most of the coyote lots on the first 6 pages had bids well before closing. I wasn’t paying that much attention so I don’t know if there were any last minute bids or not.

The way it is set up, you have to have your timing down just right if you are going to bid at the last minute. A lot of online auctions have a soft close. FHA has a hard close, which makes things a bit more complicated.

Now that FHA has had several online auctions, buyers are getting used to the system and are figuring out bidding strategies.


Wonder why they would not use a system that allows soft closing. All the online auctions I frequent have gone to that, can make a big difference in pricing.

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309778
07/20/21 09:43 AM
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i bet theres some unhappy buyers i know there is sellers just reading on here lol

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309783
07/20/21 09:45 AM
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I don’t know but might it have to do with the sophistication of their computer system and IT.

Does a soft close require more complex software?? Just asking.

I agree that a soft close would make things more interesting, especially on desirable lots/species.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309794
07/20/21 10:03 AM
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wissmiss. Thanks for the time your spending keeping us informed. I hope The Boss will increase your salary. lol

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309837
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I don’t know but might it have to do with the sophistication of their computer system and IT.

Does a soft close require more complex software?? Just asking.

I agree that a soft close would make things more interesting, especially on desirable lots/species.


I know that FHA wants to step away from online auctions back to in person auctions. Mark Downey has stated a couple times in different news articles that the online auction is temporary and his goal is to hold a in person auction when he can. So sounds like they will not be spending any money on upgrading the auction system they are using.

Thanks again for the insights

Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309853
07/20/21 11:21 AM
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So, I know my lots and grades but would would come first to check out results 1) FHA folks updating the catalogs to show what sold, OR 2) FHA folks updating my account? I'm trying to figure out when I can go look at something to see what happened with my stuff. Thanks!


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309855
07/20/21 11:23 AM
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“Sold catalogs” are usually a couple weeks after the auction. Accounts are updated first, but often not immediately

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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309887
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Accounts are updated for lynx and fisher from yesterday. Lynx not where we want it but, like fisher, looks better than it has been.

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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309903
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Not familiar with on line auctions of any sort. Can someone explain the difference between "hard close" and "soft close" bidding.

Re: FHA [Re: crosspatch] #7309914
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Not familiar with on line auctions of any sort. Can someone explain the difference between "hard close" and "soft close" bidding.


I suspect it means a deadline or a shorter window for the bidders to get in their bid.


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Re: FHA [Re: wissmiss] #7309921
07/20/21 12:31 PM
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Around here, in online auctions, a soft close was conducted where a close time was posted, but if active bidding was occurring, the system would allow a two or three minute window to elapse before an actual close occurred. This way if two bidders were competing, one couldn’t win by simply entering a bid in the last seconds. The two active bidders could compete until one didn’t counter in a specific define time to the prior bid. Once that time elapsed then bidding was officially closed


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Re: FHA [Re: crosspatch] #7309922
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Originally Posted by crosspatch
Not familiar with on line auctions of any sort. Can someone explain the difference between "hard close" and "soft close" bidding.


Hard close is when the time runs out the auction is over, so with a hard close the last person that bids wins. With a soft close as the timer counts down bids "extend" the auction usually by 30 seconds or a minute. Soft close is like what you would see in an auction house where bidding keeps going till the high bid wins.

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