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Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: KeithC] #7310656
07/21/21 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Jerry, you are referring to the crusades. I have read about those days. There are many viewpoints written.
I'm talking about today. Islamists are still killing and persecuting Christians in foreign lands. But, not the other way around.
Jesus never condone killing. Mohammad did.
Jesus said we should love our neighbors. Mohammad said just the opposite.


Christians killed at least 7000, unarmed, Muslim males, 12 years old and up, they held as prisoner on July 13th, 1995.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18101028

I am not saying it wasn't a good decision or justified, but Christians did do it.

Keith


The only religion mentioned in this article is Muslim. The word Christian is not in it. Perhaps, you meant they were killed by non-muslims.

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310663
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Keith has Muslimphobia.

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: Boco] #7310684
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Based on readings and other data there were multitudes of humans killed prior to Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and other major or minor religions, so in most cases religion has not relieved the human races of the propensity to kill those that are different or are perceived as threats and in some cases religion has create even more reasons to find differences that we can raise to the level of killing for. Religion up until now has not changed our natural animalistic behavior to survive and at the expense of whomever or whatever we feel is in our way or a threat. Is that a failure of religion? Or did we create religions to give us more justification for our survival nature?

Bryce

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310832
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I say it's the latter. Religion gives people a buffer to justify thier natural killing instinct and satisfy thier conscience that they did no wrong because "God told them to".

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310837
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Odd how folks facing a loving and compassionate person reply with well didn't once way back when didn't someone else do something?

But the loving and compassionate could choose to reply in kind but choose not to.

I wonder why that is?

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310841
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Prior to Mohammad, the Jews and Muslims lived in harmony. The Jews lived in a city called Yathribe. Mohammad met with the leaders of the city and told them he had been visited by a Jinn who told him the bible story they believed in was wrong regarding the birthright passed down by Abraham. They didn't agree with with him. Later, Mohammad returned to the city with his army and killed every Jew including the women, children, and even their animals. He re-named the city Medina which it remains to this day.

Radical Islamists, such as ISIS, still exhibit the same behavior today. They killed, persecuted, and drove Christians and Jews from their homes to this day.


If gun control really works, why isn't Chicago the safest place in America??
Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310847
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Originally Posted by Boco
Keith has Muslimphobia.


That's not a real word. Fear of Muslims is called Islamophobia.

I'm not scared of Muslims. I think that low class Muslims are frequently terrible people and my Muslim friends agree.

Last year, the only person I traveled with, on 3 separate occasions, was a Muslim friend of mine. Back in 1992, after I broke up with my long-term girlfriend, I was offered an arranged marriage with a Kurdish Princess, from Iran, who was a Muslim. My Father's best friend is Muslim. We used to go to huge gatherings where we were the only non-Muslims.

About 1/3 of my customers are Muslim.

I was also offered an arranged marriage with an Indian woman, who was Episcopalian.

I am descended from Mohammed, just like your owner, Queen Elizabeth. We are both descendants of Mohammed's daughter Fatimah and beloved cousin Ali. All US Presidents, but Harding are too.

Keith

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310849
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I don't think anyone would argue that Islam has shed its share of blood in the name of thier religion but I don't think it should be a peeing contest to see which religion killed the most so the religion that killed the least can feel good about it. It really doesn't matter what religion the discussion is about be it Christian, catholic, jew, pagan, druid, muslim, native American, or any other combination of beliefs you can name. The fact of the matter is they have all killed in the name of thier "God /goddess/great spirit".

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: KeithC] #7310851
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Trapper7
Jerry, you are referring to the crusades. I have read about those days. There are many viewpoints written.
I'm talking about today. Islamists are still killing and persecuting Christians in foreign lands. But, not the other way around.
Jesus never condone killing. Mohammad did.
Jesus said we should love our neighbors. Mohammad said just the opposite.


Christians killed at least 7000, unarmed, Muslim males, 12 years old and up, they held as prisoner on July 13th, 1995.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-18101028

I am not saying it wasn't a good decision or justified, but Christians did do it.

Keith

Because the Serbs were non-Muslims, that made them Christians?


If gun control really works, why isn't Chicago the safest place in America??
Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: KeithC] #7310853
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Boco
Keith has Muslimphobia.


That's not a real word. Fear of Muslims is called Islamophobia.

I'm not scared of Muslims. I think that low class Muslims are frequently terrible people and my Muslim friends agree.

Last year, the only person I traveled with, on 3 separate occasions, was a Muslim friend of mine. Back in 1992, after I broke up with my long-term girlfriend, I was offered an arranged marriage with a Kurdish Princess, from Iran, who was a Muslim. My Father's best friend is Muslim. We used to go to huge gatherings where we were the only non-Muslims.

About 1/3 of my customers are Muslim.

I was also offered an arranged marriage with an Indian woman, who was Episcopalian.

I am descended from Mohammed, just like your owner, Queen Elizabeth. We are both descendants of Mohammed's daughter Fatimah and beloved cousin Ali. All US Presidents, but Harding are too.

Keith

Interesting that you should say these things. I work in an area where about 10% of the people living here are Muslims. I have many as customers. Most of them are good people who have good jobs or businesses. Some people around here either fear them or don't like them or trust them. I've run into a few like that, but the majority that I know have treated me fairly and I try to treat them likewise.


If gun control really works, why isn't Chicago the safest place in America??
Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: Davisfur] #7310856
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Originally Posted by Davisfur
I don't think anyone would argue that Islam has shed its share of blood in the name of thier religion but I don't think it should be a peeing contest to see which religion killed the most so the religion that killed the least can feel good about it. It really doesn't matter what religion the discussion is about be it Christian, catholic, jew, pagan, druid, muslim, native American, or any other combination of beliefs you can name. The fact of the matter is they have all killed in the name of thier "God /goddess/great spirit".


If somebody kills 20 people in Walmart in the name of Davisfur youíre the bad guy?

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Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: KeithC] #7310861
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Boco
Keith has Muslimphobia.


That's not a real word. Fear of Muslims is called Islamophobia.

I'm not scared of Muslims. I think that low class Muslims are frequently terrible people and my Muslim friends agree.

Last year, the only person I traveled with, on 3 separate occasions, was a Muslim friend of mine. Back in 1992, after I broke up with my long-term girlfriend, I was offered an arranged marriage with a Kurdish Princess, from Iran, who was a Muslim. My Father's best friend is Muslim. We used to go to huge gatherings where we were the only non-Muslims.

About 1/3 of my customers are Muslim.

I was also offered an arranged marriage with an Indian woman, who was Episcopalian.

I am descended from Mohammed, just like your owner, Queen Elizabeth. We are both descendants of Mohammed's daughter Fatimah and beloved cousin Ali. All US Presidents, but Harding are too.

Keith



You just proved your muzlimphobic-otherwise you would have married several of those princesses.

You must be important too-you are decended from everybody.LOL.

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7310892
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If someone walked into Walmart and killed 20 people in my name I would say the same the same thing I did about religion. They are using it for a buffer to remove the burden of murder from thier conscience because they didn't have the testicular fortitude to just say "I want those people dead and I'm going to kill them and not feel guilty about it". Killing people in the name of anything except security is wrong. But most people never needed religion to tell them killing is wrong.

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7310919
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Originally Posted by Boco
You must be important too-you are decended from everybody.LOL.


Boco, a high percentage of people have Mohammed, Nial of the Nine Hostages, Heremon, Heber, Alfred the Great, Ghengis Khan and Attilla the Hunt in their pedigrees. I would not be surprised if everyone of those people is in your pedigree too.

Over 8 percent of the Irish are descendants of Nial as are all US Presidents, except Harding and all current European royalty. He has many millions of many great grandchildren.

Keith

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: Bruiser1] #7311011
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Originally Posted by Bruiser1
Thereís lots of religious nuts around here. Donít think any of them feel threatened.


Some of them sure are sensitive though.

Jim


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"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: James] #7311053
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Originally Posted by James
"Paul killed many Christians and Jesus made him a disciple."

That comes as news to me!

Jim


Still waiting for you to clear this up since I know you said you have read scripture. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: LLtrapper] #7311074
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I think I'm a descendant of Adam and Eve, if you want to move it up a little , then Noah and the Mrs ?

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What's the difference in a disciple and an apostle ?

Re: Is Canada safe for Christians? [Re: Foxpaw] #7311091
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I think I'm a descendant of Adam and Eve, if you want to move it up a little , then Noah and the Mrs ?

We might be related. I'm guessing 3rd or 4th cousins..lol

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