Thirty some years ago I got arrested. Sons 5th grade teacher was having problems with him. Called me litteraly every day. Finally I told him one more time your getting a spanking. She called that day and I touched him up that night. Next day he asked the teacher to please not call me any more. Igot arrested. Had to post a cash bond. Social workers put him in a foster home during the 12 hours I was in jail. Social workers then came out to the house. I told them to leave. So they called and tried blackmail. Said let them come “investigate”, plead guilty in court or I would never see my son. I explained they had my permission to investigate anything they wanted but not on my property and i was done talking to them. Blackmail. Went to court several times. Lawyers kept postponing. (I asked for a public defender. Couldnt see hiring one till i couldnt get out of it). I told him I wanted a jury. He told me to plead guilty. After multiple times of going to court and having it postponed I spoke up. Told the judge I wanted my trial and a jury. At that point it was all dissmissed. Son sure was glad to come home. Had been gone almost three months. People wonder why i lost all respect for judges, lawyers law enforcement and social workers.


There is the number one reason kids are in control of parents

PS. The cash bond I posted was returned as a check. And no interest

Danny it should have been nipped in the butt the first day your son came home.

Well as one infamous woman says "it takes a village to raise a kid" then why should the parent be singled out to go to jail ?

In SD you are allowed to punish your kids as long as it is not abusive.

So define abuse

In KS abuse is leaving a mark that last more than ten seconds. Unless your LE. Then its ok if a 10 year old has bruises on his wrist from being held onto

Excessive treatment but it’s a tricky call spanking a kid by hand VS using a belt. The options would be endless to go through.

All the stuff to improve our society. Letting people steal gas, prohibition, permission required to sell or build or carry or buy, interfering with people raising kids, welfare, on and on and onare exacerbating problems but instead of repealing law we pass more. That Jerry is the reason you see the problem your posting about

The lack of God in the household is one problem. Teach the Ten Commandments. Pretty simple to do.

Training kids is about the same as training dogs and horses, you make that first correction a "memorable" one...I'm not talking a beating, and the earlier you catch it the memorable part doesn't have to be harsh...You can't start light and ramp it up, one and done and you might not need i again...

I used to say something similar and people would get so mad.

Unfortunately...they won't be prepared to deal with life. I believe this is why so many today clamor for every type of handout/program...all they know is that they can get what they want by screaming, etc. It's all good until you're hooked and not self sufficient...then the gubmint is going to fill the void and people will be under oppression like they never knew in their lives. Teach your children well gentlemen, it's our only hope for the future.

Cause "people" are stupid...

Unbelievable! And from a state I watched return a 12 yr old boy with brain damage right back to the scuzzy mother who watched her boyfriend cause the brain injury to her own son and then moved the scumbag in for keeps while her son was still in a hospital. A judge in all of his (infinite wisdom) decided that since the guy had completed anger management classes it would be safe to deliver the poor kid to him again.

LOL. True ^^.

I was once watching a youth soccer game that one of my son's was playing in and there was another family present, sitting right next to us. They had a daughter that was probably about 5 or 6 and she was a major distraction, running onto the field multiple times, screaming, etc, etc. The mother was doing a terrible job of handling this and it went on long enough that other spectators got up and moved well away from the ongoing fracas. My wife wouldn't let me do the same, as our son and the poor mother's son were friends, etc. Harrumph.

Well the mother kept counting to "3" to get the little hellion to comply and would count it out as: "1"...long pause, while the kid kept doing it..."2"...at which point the kid would lock her eyes on mom, but continue to do whatever..."2-1/2"...you're killing me here lady, but the kid kept misbehaving..."2-3/4"...and she would never get to the "3"...and the kid knew it, you could see in her reaction, or lack thereof.

This had happened two or three times and the "1-2-3 Sequence" was again initiated as the little girl was up to no good again. Only this time, once mom paused after "2", I said out loud "3" and started to get up. Amazingly, the kid stopped the shenanigans instantly. I feel sorry for the kid...they will likely struggle all their lives with "mean" bosses, spouses who "don't understand them", etc. It sounds like there are many good dads here on T-Man.

Yep, I agree with most of what's being discussed here. I personally never bought into smacking my kids around, but they knew who the alpha male was in the house. They also knew I loved them. They're all now contributing members of society and raising good families of their own. Maybe we just got lucky.

When you try new stuff looking for improvements that is a good thing. If it doesn’t work the smart person resumes what was working and then perhaps tries something new searching for improvement. You dont keep doing what isn’t working hoping it will somehow start working.

Kids know how to work it they act out with the parents often but if they are not sure of the consequences they toe the line then.

To quote John J. Rambo, the mind is the best weapon. I have never spanked my kids. They are not perfect but they are great kids (human beings, students and athletes). They know I am boss but they know that I will talk and reason with them. Of course, I have wanted to ring their necks a time or two but I did not.

Now, I do wrestle around with each one of them almost daily. It is another form of reason--I want them to know I can win if we went old school. Here's the problem: the 15 year old judo daughter and the 14 year old wrestler son have recently scored a few points on old dad. They didn't win but they are getting cocky. And the 8 year old wrestler son has witnessed this. At least the 18 year old daughter will always come to my defense when I am too feeble to hold the three younger savages off.