Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Getting There]
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07/26/21 02:05 PM
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Foxpaw
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I think it is odd, the people that make the big bucks very seldom set a trap. They just keep putting more regulation on trappers. The are your DNR. They want more deer to get more money but if you hit one with a car they no longer have any interest in them. In Michigan I would say at least 45% of all auto repairs are do to hitting deer. Around 50,000 a year. And who feeds those deer for "free" I guess ?
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Foxpaw]
#7314311
07/26/21 02:09 PM
07/26/21 02:09 PM
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Posts: 3,520 Southern Illinois
Foxpaw
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trapper
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I think it is odd, the people that make the big bucks very seldom set a trap. They just keep putting more regulation on trappers. The are your DNR. They want more deer to get more money but if you hit one with a car they no longer have any interest in them. In Michigan I would say at least 45% of all auto repairs are do to hitting deer. Around 50,000 a year. And who feeds those deer for "free" I guess ? My crystal ball says CRP is in the mix.
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: mad_mike]
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07/26/21 02:22 PM
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hippie
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You might get pleasure, or "satisfaction" as your dictionary explains it, but I don't see that as the "reason" I take an animals life if by hunting or trapping. To each his own I guess in today's world tho.
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/26/21 02:27 PM
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The Beav
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Our WI coyotes suck but I love to trap them so I will just keep doing It. And the only rats I have caught In the last few years are those I'm getting paid to catch.
The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: hippie]
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07/26/21 02:28 PM
07/26/21 02:28 PM
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Posts: 4,645 49th State
mad_mike
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You might get pleasure, or "satisfaction" as your dictionary explains it, but I don't see that as the "reason" I take an animals life if by hunting or trapping. To each his own I guess in today's world tho. Sounds more like “morals” vs. “ethics”. I do enjoy killing animals. Make no mistake about it. Fur, food, or fun.
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Tom Fisher]
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07/26/21 02:52 PM
07/26/21 02:52 PM
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mad_mike
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It's overthunk, I can't not trap!----It's a good time to be a trapper! Exactly. Sit there and think about why or why not? Get out there and trap. Kill, eat, and don’t be a Mary.
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/26/21 03:00 PM
07/26/21 03:00 PM
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Posts: 2,154 Tug Hill, NY
Redknot
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My thoughts?
You need to spend less time on your tractor! Tractor time is good for the brain. I zone out and come up with some of my best ideas (or most obscure questions)! When I zone out in the tractor my rows start to get very wavey!! Really unfortunate when cultivating!!
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: mad_mike]
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07/26/21 03:07 PM
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Diggerman
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Got it BC. Still clear as mud take a deep breath, open your mind just a little, His question is a good one.
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/26/21 03:53 PM
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Turtledale
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Without us trapping mother nature will take it's course, whatever that will be. With us we trapping and shooting we will manage the land to the resources we see fit and try to manipulate to what we think is correct. So no just because we trap it doesn't mean we should no matter what. Who are we to play God. I would think without out our intervention the land would return to what it should be after disease, survival of the fittest etc. takes hold All that said I will trap every year to some extent because I love doing it and don't waste what I've taken. There is pleasure involved and I see nothing wrong with that I also hunt and fish for meat and take great pleasure in doing so.
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/26/21 04:16 PM
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Bob
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If we call ourselves conservationists then we have the ethical duty to do what needs to be done for the health of the overall ecosystem. Sometimes that means trapping/hunting a certain species that is booming, and sometimes that means letting your traps collect dust to allow a species to come back. Sometimes that means feeding deer and elk after a dry summer followed by a very cold and snowy winter. Sometimes it means installing guzzlers in strategic places during a drought.
Trapping is a tool to use for the betterment of the overall ecosystem. Wether or not we are ethically obligated to use it is very situational.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Turtledale]
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07/26/21 04:21 PM
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Bob
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Without us trapping mother nature will take it's course, whatever that will be. With us we trapping and shooting we will manage the land to the resources we see fit and try to manipulate to what we think is correct. So no just because we trap it doesn't mean we should no matter what. Who are we to play God. I would think without out our intervention the land would return to what it should be after disease, survival of the fittest etc. takes hold All that said I will trap every year to some extent because I love doing it and don't waste what I've taken. There is pleasure involved and I see nothing wrong with that I also hunt and fish for meat and take great pleasure in doing so.
We don’t play God when we intervene in nature. He gave us dominion over all the creatures on earth. What that means to me is in order to honor God we must care for the ecosystem and be a part of it. He gave us the animals to use the animals as we see fit, but also the responsibility to care for His creation.
"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
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Re: Ethics Question
[Re: Blaine County]
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07/26/21 04:31 PM
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Posts: 17,379 Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
James
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"Minka"
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I don't think a trapper has any more obligation to trap than a non-trapper has.
Jim
Forum Infidel since 2001
"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
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