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Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Boco] #7314437
07/26/21 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Nothing wrong with bragging about a large harvest of fur.


That is fine if you do not have any competition, and have areas all sewed up.
Old school guys kept quiet.

Today it is an entirely different world. I honestly think a lot of guys trap so they have pictures to post for their friends to see on Facebook.
I can think of one high profile trappers, that is without a doubt an outstanding trapper, that used to post pictures but that has stopped. Why you might ask. Probably cost him somewheres.
Unless you have something to sell, why in the world would you talk about it?
If you are selling instructions or lures etc., it probably makes sense.

A guy that LL is throwing shade at maybe changed his mind and wants to capitalize on success.

It seems odd that a proponent of Christianity would be stirring up the crap heap. Just saying.

Mac



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Mac] #7314441
07/26/21 05:30 PM
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There is a guy from Iowa that has made far better catches than 1000. And the man has done it many times. But he has never posted or bragged. He has never showed pictures everywhere. You kind of have to know some of the real high rollers to even know about the guy or his catches.

Should he ever decide to sell instructions or something, should we automatically throw doubt his way?
Should we become the judge we are taught not to be?
Just curious.

Mac



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Mac] #7314447
07/26/21 05:41 PM
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Charlie Dobbins was one of the best trappers I ever met and was lucky enough to take instruction from.
What a nice, kind person he was. I never once heard him speak or write a bad word about another person.
What a great example he set for others to follow. He was a man that actually made a living trapping during many a season.
He was a humble man, and never bragged. He is an example of someone I would like my kids to emulate.

Mac



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314449
07/26/21 05:43 PM
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Probly not many, I don't have mentality for it, unless got lots permission on land or even if do, a worn out pickup is result, maybe not for few years but keep do it an u well find out what happens expensive part replacement an labor sometime when things just start wear out 1 after another , spent bunch money on pickup in last year but right after trap season over in early Feb in sub zero weather, I became a regular in the shop, was there a good 10 times, the first time was a grand an other vists were average $250 on things wear out

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314453
07/26/21 05:51 PM
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I realize the answer will ruin 6 pages of speculation and drama, but who be the bad guy?

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Mac] #7314460
07/26/21 06:19 PM
07/26/21 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac
Originally Posted by Boco
Nothing wrong with bragging about a large harvest of fur.


That is fine if you do not have any competition, and have areas all sewed up.
Old school guys kept quiet.

Today it is an entirely different world. I honestly think a lot of guys trap so they have pictures to post for their friends to see on Facebook.
I can think of one high profile trappers, that is without a doubt an outstanding trapper, that used to post pictures but that has stopped. Why you might ask. Probably cost him somewheres.
Unless you have something to sell, why in the world would you talk about it?
If you are selling instructions or lures etc., it probably makes sense.

A guy that LL is throwing shade at maybe changed his mind and wants to capitalize on success.

It seems odd that a proponent of Christianity would be stirring up the crap heap. Just saying.

Mac


I know this may come as a shock to you Mac but Christiansare to seek out truth and discern it from lies. I do not see where you think that is throwing shade. As a worldly man like yourself can twist it anyway you wish. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314479
07/26/21 07:14 PM
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Trapping numbers of any animal is simply a function of having a large population of animals to trap, having access to them, and being able to make a fast and effective set. After that if comes to working hard and line management. I never really worry about what other trappers are doing, running my own line took all of my energy and focus. Numbers have to be taken in context, a larger mink catch is possible in MN or IA as compared to PA or ME. I don't like to see trappers think they aren't as good because they don't catch as much as someone else. Everyone has different family situations and different goals.

If you are out trapping in an honest and professional manner you are as much a trapper as anyone else. Plenty of fur for everyone, nobody has to fail in trapping for someone else to succeed. Certainly there are varying degrees of skill, but an enjoyable experience on the trap line is available to anyone, regardless of how many animals they trap. As I have said before, numbers don't mean much, except to the person that did them.

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #7314481
07/26/21 07:17 PM
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"I know this may come as a shock to you Mac but Christiansare to seek out truth and discern it from lies. I do not see where you think that is throwing shade. As a worldly man like yourself can twist it anyway you wish. LLL"

As do you. Always in your favor. LOL



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #7314483
07/26/21 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Schmitt
Trapping numbers of any animal is simply a function of having a large population of animals to trap, having access to them, and being able to make a fast and effective set. After that if comes to working hard and line management. I never really worry about what other trappers are doing, running my own line took all of my energy and focus. Numbers have to be taken in context, a larger mink catch is possible in MN or IA as compared to PA or ME. I don't like to see trappers think they aren't as good because they don't catch as much as someone else. Everyone has different family situations and different goals.

If you are out trapping in an honest and professional manner you are as much a trapper as anyone else. Plenty of fur for everyone, nobody has to fail in trapping for someone else to succeed. Certainly there are varying degrees of skill, but an enjoyable experience on the trap line is available to anyone, regardless of how many animals they trap. As I have said before, numbers don't mean much, except to the person that did them.



Thanks for sharing Gerald.

Mac



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Gerald Schmitt] #7314489
07/26/21 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gerald Schmitt
Trapping numbers of any animal is simply a function of having a large population of animals to trap, having access to them, and being able to make a fast and effective set. After that if comes to working hard and line management. I never really worry about what other trappers are doing, running my own line took all of my energy and focus. Numbers have to be taken in context, a larger mink catch is possible in MN or IA as compared to PA or ME. I don't like to see trappers think they aren't as good because they don't catch as much as someone else. Everyone has different family situations and different goals.

If you are out trapping in an honest and professional manner you are as much a trapper as anyone else. Plenty of fur for everyone, nobody has to fail in trapping for someone else to succeed. Certainly there are varying degrees of skill, but an enjoyable experience on the trap line is available to anyone, regardless of how many animals they trap. As I have said before, numbers don't mean much, except to the person that did them.



Very well put!


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Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314490
07/26/21 07:37 PM
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Man, after reading this it's like being in high school all over again.

Great post Gerald, see ya in a couple of days.

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Steven 49er] #7314499
07/26/21 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Man, after reading this it's like being in high school all over again.

Great post Gerald, see ya in a couple of days.


But you read it anyway.


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314514
07/26/21 08:16 PM
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It's kind like a train wreck, you don't want to look but you just can't help it, lol. Yeah, if whoever the secret trapper is was on a quest for 1000 for three years, failed the first and third but said nothing about the second, but then later claimed he hit 1000 that year, it sounds suspect.

But so what? Does his catching 800 coon instead of 1000 in any way affect how many coon you catch? Does he sell something you sell and is using his inflated numbers to take customers away from you? In other words, does it personally affect you in any way? If not, you probably should have just laughed to yourself about it and let it go.

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314539
07/26/21 08:43 PM
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I guess it is the sign of the times. People believe anything they are told for fear of going against the crowd or thinking for themselves. I know when I was first trapping big numbers people questioned my every word because very few had spoken about thousand coon seasons. Lots of folks were saying there was no way. I enjoyed proving them wrong at every turn and realized I had to back it up with photos that had dates on them. They still could not wrap their tiny little minds around such a big thing because some think very small. Not saying I was a pioneer to 1000 coon but a lot of folks had never thought that big. When I caught two thousand it got even more insane.

I guess now that there have been several of us that made it public through the years has made it more believable and less likely to be scrutinized then when I done it. All I know is when I got my first 1000 plus season it was 1312 coon and I did it all in the water because the dps were 250,00 a dozen and very few to be bought. Lots of things have changed I guess and nothing has changed too. LLL


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Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: yotetrapper30] #7314547
07/26/21 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
It's kind like a train wreck, you don't want to look but you just can't help it, lol. Yeah, if whoever the secret trapper is was on a quest for 1000 for three years, failed the first and third but said nothing about the second, but then later claimed he hit 1000 that year, it sounds suspect.

But so what? Does his catching 800 coon instead of 1000 in any way affect how many coon you catch? Does he sell something you sell and is using his inflated numbers to take customers away from you? In other words, does it personally affect you in any way? If not, you probably should have just laughed to yourself about it and let it go.



Excellent Post
Mac



Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Mac] #7314555
07/26/21 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
It's kind like a train wreck, you don't want to look but you just can't help it, lol. Yeah, if whoever the secret trapper is was on a quest for 1000 for three years, failed the first and third but said nothing about the second, but then later claimed he hit 1000 that year, it sounds suspect..



Excellent Post
Mac


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Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314564
07/26/21 09:10 PM
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I think you're right about that Larry. When you hit 1000 coon there were probably more than a couple others that had too, but the trapping world on the Internet was still young then. A lot of people only knew trappers in their own little corner of the world, and it was hard for them to imagine anyone catching that many coon, even harder for them to fathom the sheer amount of coon there are in Iowa to be caught. Fast forward almost 20 years and now many trappers have been on the Internet since childhood. They see huge catches of coon, fox, and other animals every year, pictures of barn shots like Phil's beyond comprehension. And it's become....... not mundane, because those catches will ALWAYS be impressive to most folks, but I guess more common is the right phrase. Like, "Oh wow, look at that, another person caught over a 1,000 coon!" as opposed to "1000 coon?? There ain't no way." People like you and others have shown that it can be done and done consistently, so it's lost some of the magic. To be honest, my first thought when I see someone catching 1000 anything is "better him than me, I sure wouldn't want to have to skin all those greasy dang things", lol.

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314609
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I caught a coon yesterday... a great ol biggin


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Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: LLtrapper] #7314639
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I wouldn't post it. Just my nature.

Re: 1000 coon season question [Re: Savell] #7314643
07/26/21 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Savell
I caught a coon yesterday... a great ol biggin


One of those big ol 12 pound southern monsters.. laugh


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