Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: possum63]
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07/29/21 01:29 PM
07/29/21 01:29 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
LLtrapper
"The Coon Combine"
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"The Coon Combine"
Joined: Oct 2009
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Pottawatamie co. IA
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One thing that keeps getting overlooked here is trappers against trappers. In the grand scheme of things we need to work together. The bickering and finger pointing amongst ourselves is every bit as bad as not having fresh blood. I'm not perfect either....but I am willing to be better. I guess I am willing to be better too but nothing about what you have said is new. Trappers have never been unified and most are loners or at least claim to be. I know I like to be by my self in my own area. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: IowaTrapper]
#7316540
07/29/21 01:33 PM
07/29/21 01:33 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635 Pottawatamie co. IA
LLtrapper
"The Coon Combine"
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"The Coon Combine"
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,635
Pottawatamie co. IA
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And for what it is worth I do not question your trapping ability Iowa Trapper. I never did. LLL
Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: LLtrapper]
#7316541
07/29/21 01:35 PM
07/29/21 01:35 PM
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Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 218 north central Iowa
possum63
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trapper
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Posts: 218
north central Iowa
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One thing that keeps getting overlooked here is trappers against trappers. In the grand scheme of things we need to work together. The bickering and finger pointing amongst ourselves is every bit as bad as not having fresh blood. I'm not perfect either....but I am willing to be better. I guess I am willing to be better too but nothing about what you have said is new. Trappers have never been unified and most are loners or at least claim to be. I know I like to be by my self in my own area. LLL I understand that. And that's one of the main reasons I trap is to be alone. I've had offers to trap with others and always refused. And please don't think I'm pointing my finger at you LL. It's way bigger than that
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: LLtrapper]
#7316556
07/29/21 02:23 PM
07/29/21 02:23 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,874 Central, SD
Law Dog
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trapper
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Central, SD
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If you look back to just last year what happened when the idea of people not being able to get the basic things they wanted/needed. All of a sudden people are canning, baking breads, growing gardens and asking about hunting and fishing. 7 million new gun buyers so start seeing what can see and question everything you hear on the MSM. A hack reporter standing in front of a burning building saying peaceful protesters would be my example. I question everything I do not know to be fact but I am vilified for that. LLL Try using Law Dog as your sign and see how that goes for you it’s not as bad as it was in the past but I don’t hide what I do because others don’t take the time to figure things out. Never let others get in your head would be my advice.
Last edited by Law Dog; 07/29/21 03:39 PM.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: IowaTrapper]
#7316565
07/29/21 02:43 PM
07/29/21 02:43 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 34,874 Central, SD
Law Dog
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trapper
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Central, SD
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I asked a major dealer what they did in the off season years back, the reply was ADC mostly, private and Government type trappers.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: Law Dog]
#7316567
07/29/21 02:49 PM
07/29/21 02:49 PM
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,443 SE SD
DWC
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trapper
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SE SD
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It’s always been that 12 people try it and maybe only 1-2 stick with it at least you educated the other 10 or 11 about trapping. It’s the old I took karate lessons guy that really signed up for 10 lessons and went three times but he’s still talking positive about it. Every time you help someone out with trapping your presenting it in a better light then before to them. Good way to look at it
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: LLtrapper]
#7316666
07/29/21 05:22 PM
07/29/21 05:22 PM
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Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 5,214 Crivitz WI
Sprung & Rusty
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trapper
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Posts: 5,214
Crivitz WI
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One thing that keeps getting overlooked here is trappers against trappers. In the grand scheme of things we need to work together. The bickering and finger pointing amongst ourselves is every bit as bad as not having fresh blood. I'm not perfect either....but I am willing to be better. I guess I am willing to be better too but nothing about what you have said is new. Trappers have never been unified and most are loners or at least claim to be. I know I like to be by my self in my own area. LLL People in general, not just trappers. It's just human nature.
No Jab.
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: IowaTrapper]
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07/29/21 10:24 PM
07/29/21 10:24 PM
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Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,076 Wyoming
cmcf
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trapper
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Wyoming
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Saw a picture of a red fox missing a front leg above the elbow on a billboard on I 80. Caption was from the Wackos trying to get steel banned everywhere. Saw a bigger more professional billboard with a local burrito/ mex. restaurant..couple of observations. 1.) The antis have always generalized large mass markets, and specialized with intense pressure on local single item agendas. 2.) If a local business can afford a larger taller more professional billboard than a nonprofit with deep pockets billboards must not be very expensive just saying Talk about my two cents Fluffy in a coyotes mouth or #3 set your choice. Or how about “FUR the original ORGANIC clothing” Picture of the duckling covered in oil, “ Do you really want to wear petrochemical synthetics “ Meh, never happen, trying to get trappers to agree on anything is tougher than herding cats.
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: charles]
#7317238
07/30/21 10:45 AM
07/30/21 10:45 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,184 Armpit, ak
Dirt
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trapper
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Armpit, ak
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Know anybody who bird hunts for food? Me neither.
Yes. Most people here hunt spruce grouse for food. They shoot them on the ground or sitting in trees with a .22 I usually harvest 25 to 30 per year and prefer the YOY as they are more tender. About a third I shoot in the yard. I package 3 to 4 breast per bag for eating throughout the winter. The rest is used for marten bait, which results in more money to buy food when prices are reasonable. My favorite recipe is spruce hen in sage sauce. On a good day I will shoot some ruff grouse. They are better eating than the spruce grouse.
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Who is John Galt?
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: yukonjeff]
#7317239
07/30/21 10:49 AM
07/30/21 10:49 AM
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Posts: 45,492 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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james bay frontierOnt.
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Its a matter of economics. If the kid needs money and is shown how to trap and put up fur, and has a market readily available to sell his catch and make good money. He will go out again.
It take all those elements combined to keep the youth and many adults interested.
I started buying fur here with no one trapping. I lured new trappers in with good prices and trapping equipment available to purchase with fur, along with instruction to help them out.
I had 30 or more trappers in this small village of 800 from nothing in a few short years.
When the bottom started falling out of fur prices I shut down here and moved into antler buying. Almost overnight they stopped trapping and started looking for antler. Moose shed starting in late November same as trapping, and worth very good money. I have young guys and girls now selling me antler making more than I every did trapping on a good year.
In my opinion if fur prices would of held and the market was there. and a buyer readily available There would be new recruits every year. Exactly right. Like Ralph Bice said years ago."trappers follow their line of work primarily because they like the freedom of the bush and the lifestyle.But if they cannot expect a monetary return to support their families there would be no reason to follow this line of work."
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Will we be our own demise?
[Re: Boco]
#7317248
07/30/21 11:01 AM
07/30/21 11:01 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11,184 Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Armpit, ak
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Its a matter of economics. If the kid needs money and is shown how to trap and put up fur, and has a market readily available to sell his catch and make good money. He will go out again.
It take all those elements combined to keep the youth and many adults interested.
I started buying fur here with no one trapping. I lured new trappers in with good prices and trapping equipment available to purchase with fur, along with instruction to help them out.
I had 30 or more trappers in this small village of 800 from nothing in a few short years.
When the bottom started falling out of fur prices I shut down here and moved into antler buying. Almost overnight they stopped trapping and started looking for antler. Moose shed starting in late November same as trapping, and worth very good money. I have young guys and girls now selling me antler making more than I every did trapping on a good year.
In my opinion if fur prices would of held and the market was there. and a buyer readily available There would be new recruits every year. Exactly right. Like Ralph Bice said years ago."trappers follow their line of work primarily because they like the freedom of the bush and the lifestyle.But if they cannot expect a monetary return to support their families there would be no reason to follow this line of work." Funny thing is these Sport guys think they are carrying on the tradition of the mountainmen. The mountainmen were motivated by economics. Do these people seriously think that they went out into the rocky mountains and risked their lives and suffered cold, starvation, and other hardships for the lifestyle? Good money made them do it.
Who is John Galt?
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