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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317348
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The Montagnards that helped our special forces did not get much help in the end that I ever heard of.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Law Dog] #7317349
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The Montagnards that helped our special forces did not get much help in the end that I ever heard of.

Never heard of them. Which war?

Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: charles] #7317352
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Originally Posted by charles
We brought lots of South Viet Nam residents to the US when we left Saigon.



And a lot of German scientist and top officials after WW2. Sure that all got new names and jobs.

Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Pike River] #7317354
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Law Dog
The Montagnards that helped our special forces did not get much help in the end that I ever heard of.

Never heard of them. Which war?



Indigenous people of Vietnam.

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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Law Dog] #7317356
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
They helped us we help them itís the American way, if we keep walking away from people that we had their backs then left behind nobody would trust us again most donít now. If not for Politicians we might win some wars again better yet not have any to begin with.



I agree and I am not saying we should not bring these 221 people here , it is really sad we keep ending wars like this , think Mong peoples , we couldn't win so we brough them here , it would have been better if we could have found a way to win but

hey , land wars in Asia and all


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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Pike River] #7317359
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Law Dog
They helped us we help them itís the American way, if we keep walking away from people that we had their backs then left behind nobody would trust us again most donít now. If not for Politicians we might win some wars again better yet not have any to begin with.

Agreed


I have met a lot of Iraqis and Afghans, who got US citizenship for serving with our troops. They earned it and we owe them.

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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317361
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The Montagnards are like our Indians and the Hmong are the New World invaders that left China.


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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317377
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Even though I disagree with a lot of our unnecessary military interventions, I generally agree that we should not leave assistance providing natives high and dry. I am not interested in subsidizing them with U.S. tax dollars though. The can learn to drive a cab and pay their own way.

But have y'all considered that these are MUSLIMS? That's right, more Muslims en route to the U.S.


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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317381
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Trump started the program to move the Afgan eyes out and close the war over there, Biden finishing the job. China will soon move in and give it a try just like the US and Russians before us. I'm guessing the Chinese will do business different. China moving into South America and dumping tons of money in and staying out of the politics. Who really cares how Afgans rule their country we are not going to stop terrorism over there or anywhere else. Best we try to deal with it here as best we can and our own civil war. We should have learned our lesson in Vietnam, but war is big money started by politicians at the cost of our young and parents burying their children.

Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Law Dog] #7317419
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The Montagnards that helped our special forces did not get much help in the end that I ever heard of.

St. Louis has a fairly large 'Hmong" community, as does Minnisota.


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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317422
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Biden will start nonstop flights from Afghanistan of anyone that wants to come to America. This will be used by this administration as anther way to flood America with immigrants to destroy the country as fast as they can. Importing people and bussing and flying them around the country like they are doing now. The flights will never stop once they start I bet.

We already had a beheading in Minnesota the other day. Expect more of that soon.

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Originally Posted by yukonjeff


We already had a beheading in Minnesota the other day. Expect more of that soon.

And the suspect in custody is a "christian" that was born and raised here.

Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: danvee] #7317432
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Originally Posted by danvee
Trump started the program to move the Afgan eyes out and close the war over there, Biden finishing the job. China will soon move in and give it a try just like the US and Russians before us. I'm guessing the Chinese will do business different. China moving into South America and dumping tons of money in and staying out of the politics. Who really cares how Afgans rule their country we are not going to stop terrorism over there or anywhere else. Best we try to deal with it here as best we can and our own civil war. We should have learned our lesson in Vietnam, but war is big money started by politicians at the cost of our young and parents burying their children.


We've been giving Iraqis, Afghans and Iranians, American citizenship, for working with our special forces since at least the late seventies.

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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: henpecked1] #7317471
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We have a lot of Hmong in WI , they seem to like it fine so many that the state publishes all our hunting and Fishing Regs in Hmong

the Lutheran church sponsored a lot of them in WI an MN

had a guy that frequented the auto shop I worked at years ago , he had been worked with our troops in Vietnam as a scout and was able to move here after the war , he was an interesting guy always wore fatigue pants and sandals


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We owe it to these people who helped us, however misguided our mission may have been. Better to shelter them here than to abandon them to a bunch of murderous religious fanatics.

And we owe them support for an initial period when they get here until they can find jobs and begin assimilation into a foreign culture. Culture shock will probably be extreme.

We are the USA. We stand with our friends, and against our enemies.

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Re: Afgan interpreters coming to America "finally" [Re: Blaine County] #7317855
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Even though I disagree with a lot of our unnecessary military interventions, I generally agree that we should not leave assistance providing natives high and dry. I am not interested in subsidizing them with U.S. tax dollars though. The can learn to drive a cab and pay their own way.

But have y'all considered that these are MUSLIMS? That's right, more Muslims en route to the U.S.

These guys aren't getting that money. That money will be channeled through various "agencies" for pet projects and paybacks for favors. Worked with some great terps on my deployments. We put them in a no win situation. We paid better than the terrorists did, but by taking a job with us it put a target on not only their back but their families as well. Had a terp on my second deployment to Iraq who had his oldest son executed in front of him because he was working for us. He hated al Qaeda more than anyone in this country. If they're left over there, they're as good as dead. I'd bet there will be many that get killed before this program helps them relocate. I'd rather help these guys than the freaking fence jumpers coming up from Mexico. At least they served a purpose other than a guaranteed vote for the dems.


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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Even though I disagree with a lot of our unnecessary military interventions, I generally agree that we should not leave assistance providing natives high and dry. I am not interested in subsidizing them with U.S. tax dollars though. The can learn to drive a cab and pay their own way.

But have y'all considered that these are MUSLIMS? That's right, more Muslims en route to the U.S.

These guys aren't getting that money. That money will be channeled through various "agencies" for pet projects and paybacks for favors. Worked with some great terps on my deployments. We put them in a no win situation. We paid better than the terrorists did, but by taking a job with us it put a target on not only their back but their families as well. Had a terp on my second deployment to Iraq who had his oldest son executed in front of him because he was working for us. He hated al Qaeda more than anyone in this country. If they're left over there, they're as good as dead. I'd bet there will be many that get killed before this program helps them relocate. I'd rather help these guys than the freaking fence jumpers coming up from Mexico. At least they served a purpose other than a guaranteed vote for the dems.


Good post!

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Originally Posted by James
We owe it to these people who helped us, however misguided our mission may have been. Better to shelter them here than to abandon them to a bunch of murderous religious fanatics.

And we owe them support for an initial period when they get here until they can find jobs and begin assimilation into a foreign culture. Culture shock will probably be extreme.

We are the USA. We stand with our friends, and against our enemies.

Jim


Sounds fair.

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