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Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317770
07/30/21 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinke
Is it real?
Can you do it?

What do you use? I have my Great great grandfathers copper rods.



Yes it is real.

Yes I do it and have for years. I go in about a 150 to 200 mile radius to try to help people find water for their homes and family use. I will not try to witch a well for weekenders or some timers to pump into dirt tanks for wildlife.

I usually use #12 galvanized wire, just one piece, about 30" long with a bend to fit my hand and a flat washer on the end. I have also used #9 galvanized wire as well as brass. The #12 is just easier for me to keep up with and I can just use baling wire if I can't find anything else.

I also have and still do witch for unmarked graves.


Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.

Re: Witching water [Re: logger coffey] #7317772
07/30/21 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by logger coffey
My grandmother could, she always used a willow limb in a Y shape, most everybody in my parts would get her to witch water wells , i have seen the bark twist off in her hands as the dowser would twist down. kinda scary and exciting at the same time.



Love the old story. Thanks!!!!


Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317774
07/30/21 11:08 PM
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Dobbins????? Can I change my name to the bichen witchen????lol


Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317775
07/30/21 11:08 PM
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I look like this when I go water witch - ing.

[Linked Image]
Plus I get to drive the truck real fast when I do it laugh






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Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317778
07/30/21 11:11 PM
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For those that can its the real deal.

Willow was very popular

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Re: Witching water [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7317782
07/30/21 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cedar Hacker
Originally Posted by Vinke
Is it real?
Can you do it?

What do you use? I have my Great great grandfathers copper rods.



Yes it is real.

Yes I do it and have for years. I go in about a 150 to 200 mile radius to try to help people find water for their homes and family use. I will not try to witch a well for weekenders or some timers to pump into dirt tanks for wildlife.

I usually use #12 galvanized wire, just one piece, about 30" long with a bend to fit my hand and a flat washer on the end. I have also used #9 galvanized wire as well as brass. The #12 is just easier for me to keep up with and I can just use baling wire if I can't find anything else.

I also have and still do witch for unmarked graves.



I would like to learn the grave thing, never looked
Send me a message
I use two copper rods


Last edited by Vinke; 07/31/21 07:27 PM.

Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317804
07/30/21 11:48 PM
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I have used bent pieces of copper wire to find metal. Kind of spooky!

Moosetrot

Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317805
07/30/21 11:48 PM
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Until someone can explain the science behind it, I'm a skeptic.

Plus, if you go down deep enough, you'll find water almost everywhere. Often if you pay attention to the terrain, it will tell you where water is likely to be.

Not calling anyone a fraud, just saying I'm a doubter.

Jim


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Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317822
07/31/21 12:21 AM
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I dig graves and have found old unmarked graves using copper wire rods. Most of the time it works

Re: Witching water [Re: James] #7317825
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Originally Posted by James
Until someone can explain the science behind it, I'm a skeptic.

Plus, if you go down deep enough, you'll find water almost everywhere. Often if you pay attention to the terrain, it will tell you where water is likely to be.

Not calling anyone a fraud, just saying I'm a doubter.

Jim


41 years ago when I first found it worked for me, I asked an old well driller why I could witch or douse as some call it.
His response was " do you believe in God " and my reply was yes I do. He said "well just consider it a God given gift and leave it at that." That is exactly how I have left it all these years.

I have had some experience with deep wells.

I have been involved in the drilling of oil and gas wells all across the United States and several foreign countries and have encountered water as deep as 25,000'. But most landowners are looking for drinking or livestock water and to service their household. They can't afford the $100,000 price tag to just move in a drilling rig to go to the deeper water in some places in this area. I will not recommend going any deeper than 600'.

I have been called a fraud, an idiot and a fool, but when some have drilled 4 or 5 dry holes and they have called me and I found 25 gallon well at 50 or 60 'that was 40' from a dry one, they changed their minds and have referred me to others. Most streams or cracks I find that have water are from 50' to 350' deep.

And another thing is I believe in passing it on so I do not charge a fee for any services but do accept payment for expenses such as gasoline and meals.

I am not going to say anything about you being a doubter. There are many like you out there, but if you were in a situation where you did not have water and someone witched you a well and got water, I believe you would change your mind.


Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.

Re: Witching water [Re: James] #7317826
07/31/21 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by James
Until someone can explain the science behind it, I'm a skeptic.

Not calling anyone a fraud, just saying I'm a doubter.

Jim


James, would you also correlate this skepticism to believing in God?


"Humans are the hardest people to get along with."
Dr. Phillip Snow
Re: Witching water [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7317827
07/31/21 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cedar Hacker
Originally Posted by James
Until someone can explain the science behind it, I'm a skeptic.

Plus, if you go down deep enough, you'll find water almost everywhere. Often if you pay attention to the terrain, it will tell you where water is likely to be.

Not calling anyone a fraud, just saying I'm a doubter.

Jim


41 years ago when I first found it worked for me, I asked an old well driller why I could witch or douse as some call it.
His response was " do you believe in God " and my reply was yes I do. He said "well just consider it a God given gift and leave it at that." That is exactly how I have left it all these years.

I have had some experience with deep wells.

I have been involved in the drilling of oil and gas wells all across the United States and several foreign countries and have encountered water as deep as 25,000'. But most landowners are looking for drinking or livestock water and to service their household. They can't afford the $100,000 price tag to just move in a drilling rig to go to the deeper water in some places in this area. I will not recommend going any deeper than 600'.

I have been called a fraud, an idiot and a fool, but when some have drilled 4 or 5 dry holes and they have called me and I found 25 gallon well at 50 or 60 'that was 40' from a dry one, they changed their minds and have referred me to others. Most streams or cracks I find that have water are from 50' to 350' deep.

And another thing is I believe in passing it on so I do not charge a fee for any services but do accept payment for expenses such as gasoline and meals.

I am not going to say anything about you being a doubter. There are many like you out there, but if you were in a situation where you did not have water and someone witched you a well and got water, I believe you would change your mind.


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Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317829
07/31/21 12:48 AM
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Doesn't matter what tool you use. Try different things and use what works best for you for the job at hand. Whatever you use, it is just an extension of your own energy, or what ever makes it work. L- rods, plum bobs are mainly what I use. Coat hangers will work in a pinch. Interesting phenomenon to experiment with. Water and pipes are just the beginning of things that can be dowsed.


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Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317830
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Ive done it to find quite a few under ground lines. It definitely works. I was a doubter until I tried it. Wire rods for me. I've seen others that it gives a lot stronger signal for than me. Seen one guy that would witch with a pair of pliers or channel locks. I've seen guy do and it wouldn't work but when a guy that it would work really good for but his hands over theirs it would work.

Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317832
07/31/21 12:54 AM
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I didn't believe it until I saw Drifter do it. I most definitely cannot do it, but he can. We bought this place, and it has a 3/4 mile long driveway. It also has a 3/4 mile long water line hooked up to city water. The water line crosses the driveway back and forth several times. Having no idea how the waterline ran, he set out with a couple of pieces of bent wire, never having witched before. Within a couple hours he had the whole waterline witched out and marked. We've since done dozer work on the driveway, and his markings were right.

Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317897
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It's pseudoscience at best. It's caused by ideomotor response.... you're unconsciously moving the sticks yourself, not due to any outside force. Multiple studies have shown that it's no better than random chance.

Re: Witching water [Re: loosegoose] #7317902
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
It's pseudoscience at best. It's caused by ideomotor response.... you're unconsciously moving the sticks yourself, not due to any outside force. Multiple studies have shown that it's no better than random chance.


So if I witch a previously unknown water line I somehow subconsciously already know it's there? Huh.

Re: Witching water [Re: loosegoose] #7317904
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
It's pseudoscience at best. It's caused by ideomotor response.... you're unconsciously moving the sticks yourself, not due to any outside force. Multiple studies have shown that it's no better than random chance.

Yet I know a guy who has witched over one hundred wells in the last year since he retired, and he tells people how deep the water will be. He always talks to the driller after they drill to see what they came up with. The farthest he has been of is 6', usually within 1-2' on depth. And this is wells ranging from 100-600 feet deep. He has also told at least 2 guys that I know of that there wasn't any water he could find anywhere on their place, and they went ahead and drilled dry holes.

Re: Witching water [Re: trapdog1] #7317915
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
I do it all the time to verify locates, or find utilities that aren't located. It ain't perfect, but it pinpoints ares to avoid. I use a couple pieces of wire from locate flags with the plastic flag removed and "handles" bent on one end that I keep in the truck.
For those that have never done it, give it a try on a utility line you know the location of. It works!


I was taught to do it this way when I hired on as an equipment operator with a residential excavator.

It does work with metal wire to locate buried electric lines.

Everything produces an electro-magnetic field. In theory, that's how it works when using metal wire lightly balanced in on your fingers.

I am skeptical of water-witching with a wooden stick though. I've seen it done many times here in PA. Mostly by owners we were building new homes for that were looking for the best place to drill their wells on their new properties.

In most of this state You will hit the an aquifer at around a hundred feet, some areas deeper, some areas much shallower and get good flow. Having a property water witched is really unnecessary.


Eh...wot?

Re: Witching water [Re: Vinke] #7317920
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