Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Dstone1992]
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07/30/21 06:43 AM
07/30/21 06:43 AM
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steeltraps
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No no. I'm keeping the sterlings. Just wondering if 650s are worth trying. Score sterlings 1-0 Buy 1. MB 650. Buy a trap pan tester. Start on the MB 650 pan. Set tension at 3 or 4 lbs. THEN start at dead center of the pan. As you go to the 12 o’clock position if WILL get heavier ! Then you hit a big dead spot. I will bet on this!
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Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Wife]
#7317796
07/30/21 11:43 PM
07/30/21 11:43 PM
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Scott__aR
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Has anyone taken the 650 and put a washer(s) on the Jaw hold down rod at the bracket besides me (like Seldom suggested a few years back)? No issues from me as that solves a lot of my pan tension problem. All three traps are of professional quality and does the average fur harvester NEED that quality of a tool when they are running 24 sets and checking daily? I know,,, its WANT not NEED LOL.... the mike Mike haven't heard of this, can you post a picture of the washer setup.
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Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Dstone1992]
#7317994
07/31/21 09:57 AM
07/31/21 09:57 AM
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Law Dog
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All I run now is the MJs the only thing that messes up a good MJ is some joker that thinks it needs improving! LOL That’s my opinion mod away
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Dstone1992]
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07/31/21 05:04 PM
07/31/21 05:04 PM
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yoteguts
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Ran the 600s for a while. Great trap but to expensive and no pan tension adjustment bugged me. Ran 650 i/o for years. Good trap but dead spot and after years of use I had trap prematurely firing problems due to the pan notch. Still caught hundreds of yotes in them. Both traps bed great and hold well with good feet. The 500s I did t like at all. Terrible feet for me. Didn’t catch many yotes in them but all were bad. Jakes are awesome but get tired of constantly having to adjust pan tension. Corner catches are nasty. Bridger 3 full mod with i/o lams work well. Great feet and don’t break the bank. But require some work. Montana’s held great with good feet. Tough for me to adjust.
The point is there are things you can knit pick about every trap. All have pluses and minuses. I’ve ran about all the #3 and #4 size yote traps and caught yotes in them. They all work. Just depends on your goals and money you have to spend. And how much work you want to put into the trap and chain rig.
I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
More trappin' and less yappin'.
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Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Dstone1992]
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08/03/21 05:28 AM
08/03/21 05:28 AM
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danny clifton
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Sterling has small pan. The area of the pan that will pop a 650 is actually bigger. If you cant catch and hold coyotes and cats, just as many as you can with a sterling, well I would say your fibbing. The 650 does have wear problems. Need a new pan after it pops a few hundred times. The back of the pan gets wore where it engages the notch. The notch needs dressed after some serious use also butI have never had to replace that. Sterlings the little notch to create tension gets worn. Trap is plenty fast enough that lack of pan tension is not a problem. Though people who read instead of trap will disagree with that too.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Sterling 600 vs mb650 cast
[Re: Dstone1992]
#7320539
08/03/21 08:55 AM
08/03/21 08:55 AM
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trappergbus
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The reason the 650 has the "dead spot" is the angle of the pan post ( fulcrum point) is not stretched out enough. AS with all traps the closer to the fulcrum point the pressure is applied the higher the tension is . The further away from that point the tension is less. To help that I set mine at 2.5 pounds dead center so at the fulcrum point its approximately 3 pounds. If fox are in the mix I set them floppy, yes I still get pad caught coyotes. Ive never used the MJs but Glenn was way ahead of his time. All the great traps we have now we can thank the coyotes for all the improvements not the BMPs Just to hold them, and the trappers that cared. For me I prefer a trap with less moving parts than either. One thing for sure we now have lots of awesome choices , in the end the decision is yours and yours alone. Remember tho you can buy a trap cheaper but it's real easy to wrap 5 bucks into modifications to every trap just to get close to a trap good to go. Also, if there is a weakness coyotes will exploit it till it eventually fails.
Trust me there's alot more to designing a trap than slapping springs on steel.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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