Re: Politics everywhere
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You start worrying about people’s choices you will grow old fast son.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Every thing we do is affected by politics now days
It's all coming to a head
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Going back quite a few years, neither the dems or repubs were in love with Bush Jr. And during that time people just seemed more normal. If someone went to get a cake baked for a gay wedding and the owner said sorry, but that goes against my Religion, the couple would say ok and move on to the next baker, not sue them for everything they have and make sure it gets on the front page of every newspaper.
Probably not what you want to hear, but things took a turn for the worse during Obama's Presidency. He stood up for the freaks, for the thugs, for the criminals, for the illegal aliens, for the terrorists, and basically for everyone BUT the common American. The result of that was that the LGQBT freaks, the criminals, the illegals, the terrorists and etc., were emboldened. They began to demand not equal rights, but special treatment. Soon you would lose your business if you didn't bake a cake that went against your religion. It became illegal to search someone that appeared to possibly be a terrorist at the airport. If ICE saw a car load of illegal immigrants, they couldn't stop them. If someone attacked a police officer and was shot for it, they became a hero and martyr and not the common thug they really were. Then the media got on board and also started defending these dregs of American society. And by the end of Obama's presidency, the nation was divided clearly down the middle, to a point it is has not been since the Civil War.
As much as I liked Trump, he certainly didn't help the divide, although there was no way he could have. It was too deep by then. The same for Biden. Even if it was his honest, heart felt desire to rejoin the country, he couldn't do it. If he took the middle ground, he would be crucified by his supporters and it still wouldn't be enough for his detractors.
I honestly don't know what's going to happen, but barring some truly catastrophic event that could possibly band everyone together as Americans again, I just don't see any way for this country to ever heal.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Maybe an out of control, over sized , power hungry government is a little to blame for it. Plus a lot of people are dependent 9n the government for housing, food, medical and employment. Yup. And both parties are to blame.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Your life could change tomorrow and not for the better most likely it’s a struggle for power today the people are just drones in a hive.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Going back quite a few years, neither the dems or repubs were in love with Bush Jr. And during that time people just seemed more normal. If someone went to get a cake baked for a gay wedding and the owner said sorry, but that goes against my Religion, the couple would say ok and move on to the next baker, not sue them for everything they have and make sure it gets on the front page of every newspaper.
Probably not what you want to hear, but things took a turn for the worse during Obama's Presidency. He stood up for the freaks, for the thugs, for the criminals, for the illegal aliens, for the terrorists, and basically for everyone BUT the common American. The result of that was that the LGQBT freaks, the criminals, the illegals, the terrorists and etc., were emboldened. They began to demand not equal rights, but special treatment. Soon you would lose your business if you didn't bake a cake that went against your religion. It became illegal to search someone that appeared to possibly be a terrorist at the airport. If ICE saw a car load of illegal immigrants, they couldn't stop them. If someone attacked a police officer and was shot for it, they became a hero and martyr and not the common thug they really were. Then the media got on board and also started defending these dregs of American society. And by the end of Obama's presidency, the nation was divided clearly down the middle, to a point it is has not been since the Civil War.
As much as I liked Trump, he certainly didn't help the divide, although there was no way he could have. It was too deep by then. The same for Biden. Even if it was his honest, heart felt desire to rejoin the country, he couldn't do it. If he took the middle ground, he would be crucified by his supporters and it still wouldn't be enough for his detractors.
I honestly don't know what's going to happen, but barring some truly catastrophic event that could possibly band everyone together as Americans again, I just don't see any way for this country to ever heal. I don't agree with all of that, but a few of the statements are exceptions. Jim
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Wolfdog, you ask some mighty good questions.
The division became worse under Obama. Partly that was due to the fact that many could not accept his liberal policies, and others were upset that he wasn't white--even though they'll never admit it. Obama missed the boat a few times when he might have made things better. Obama was an urbanite, through and through; he had no ability to empathize with rural folks.
Then Trump became president. By playing only to his followers instead of the nation, he made things worse.
Where we go from here is anyone's guess, but I fear things may get worse before they get better.
Jim
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Because they have made everything political
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Wolfdog, you ask some mighty good questions.
The division became worse under Obama. Partly that was due to the fact that many could not accept his liberal policies, and others were upset that he wasn't white--even though they'll never admit it. Obama missed the boat a few times when he might have made things better. Obama was an urbanite, through and through; he had no ability to empathize with rural folks.
Then Trump became president. By playing only to his followers instead of the nation, he made things worse.
Where we go from here is anyone's guess, but I fear things may get worse before they get better.
Jim While i agree there probably are people who didnt like having a black president, because blatant racism is definitely a thing, the vast majority of those people youre referring to wouldve been perfectly fine with a guy like Ben Carson. You know, a non-racist level headed black guy like Obama clearly wasnt. For the record-he was a black guy. He was just racist. You dissed trump for pandering to republicans-now how about a shot at Biden for his take on things, (when he remembers to have one). Now put on that mask and take that shot. Cmon man.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Going back quite a few years, neither the dems or repubs were in love with Bush Jr. And during that time people just seemed more normal. If someone went to get a cake baked for a gay wedding and the owner said sorry, but that goes against my Religion, the couple would say ok and move on to the next baker, not sue them for everything they have and make sure it gets on the front page of every newspaper.
Probably not what you want to hear, but things took a turn for the worse during Obama's Presidency. He stood up for the freaks, for the thugs, for the criminals, for the illegal aliens, for the terrorists, and basically for everyone BUT the common American. The result of that was that the LGQBT freaks, the criminals, the illegals, the terrorists and etc., were emboldened. They began to demand not equal rights, but special treatment. Soon you would lose your business if you didn't bake a cake that went against your religion. It became illegal to search someone that appeared to possibly be a terrorist at the airport. If ICE saw a car load of illegal immigrants, they couldn't stop them. If someone attacked a police officer and was shot for it, they became a hero and martyr and not the common thug they really were. Then the media got on board and also started defending these dregs of American society. And by the end of Obama's presidency, the nation was divided clearly down the middle, to a point it is has not been since the Civil War.
As much as I liked Trump, he certainly didn't help the divide, although there was no way he could have. It was too deep by then. The same for Biden. Even if it was his honest, heart felt desire to rejoin the country, he couldn't do it. If he took the middle ground, he would be crucified by his supporters and it still wouldn't be enough for his detractors.
I honestly don't know what's going to happen, but barring some truly catastrophic event that could possibly band everyone together as Americans again, I just don't see any way for this country to ever heal. I don't agree with all of that, but a few of the statements are exceptions. Jim This goes for the post you made after too james. I can see some truth in both posts. This started in the 70s and 80s when the country lost manufacturing jobs and started to be a split between service jobs and professional jobs. We have lost our ability to have empathy for each other. I owe no one anything but will dang sure be willing to see anybody succeed if they put in the effort.
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Re: Politics everywhere
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Wolfdog, you ask some mighty good questions.
The division became worse under Obama. Partly that was due to the fact that many could not accept his liberal policies, and others were upset that he wasn't white--even though they'll never admit it. Obama missed the boat a few times when he might have made things better. Obama was an urbanite, through and through; he had no ability to empathize with rural folks.
Then Trump became president. By playing only to his followers instead of the nation, he made things worse.
Where we go from here is anyone's guess, but I fear things may get worse before they get better.
Jim Based on his campaign promises when he was running, I knew Obama wasn't going to be my favorite President. That said, I was interested in watching to see how things went, because Barack Obama had an opportunity that no black person in this country had ever had. As the President of the United States, at the point in time when he was elected, he had the opportunity to bridge what racial divide there was in this country. I hoped to see him promote the black race in a positive manner, focusing on the opportunities available for them and the success stories of those who had embraced those opportunities. After all, if a black can could become President, what couldn't they do? But he went the complete opposite direction of that, choosing instead to embrace criminals like Michael Brown and Trayvon "he could be my son" Martin. It was those choices he made that was like taking a pair of scissors to a tiny tear in the fabric of this country and rending it wide open.
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