No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: drasselt] #7319753
08/02/21 10:46 AM
08/02/21 10:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
K
k snow Online content OP
trapper
k snow  Online Content OP
trapper
K

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
Originally Posted by drasselt
Thanks I'll look it up. The whole Astorian story is amazingly perilous both the overland and ocean stories.


As of 7/25, there's a copy on the Trap Shed. That's where I got mine from.

I haven't read much on the overseas travel, except about their ship being blown up after the Indians siezed it.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319763
08/02/21 10:55 AM
08/02/21 10:55 AM
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,608
Green County Wisconsin
G
GREENCOUNTYPETE Online content
trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE  Online Content
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 18,608
Green County Wisconsin
Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by Boco
To utilize a lean animal for maximum nutrition the fatty parts are extremely important.
In hard times the nutritional(fat) value of the skin and other parts of the animal is more important than the lean meat alone.
There are still older native people who eat rabbits(a very lean animal) whole,including the skin.The brains are high in fat and are eaten.The innards are cleaned out and eaten also.
I have seen how they prepare it.
There are two ways.Animals like rabbits can be boiled only long enough until the hair loosens and can be wiped off the skin.The fur can be saved and used as a type of felt inside winter moccassins.
Animals like porcupines the hair was burnt off over a fire then the skin was scraped clean of any charr.


Interesting. I haven't come across any specific references to organs being eaten.



I met a Hmong guy muzzle loader hunting some years back he had just shot a nice fat doe he was hauling it out whole , not field dressed I asked if he wanted to field dress it , he said he takes it home and Mom and grandma and other women gut , skin and use all the intestines , the heart the liver every organ they have something they make from it , except the lungs those are about the only part not eaten


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319764
08/02/21 10:56 AM
08/02/21 10:56 AM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,686
Alaska
D
drasselt Offline
trapper
drasselt  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,686
Alaska
The captain was hardcore and clashed with the civilian crew. The captain is why they lost their ship.


you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319765
08/02/21 10:57 AM
08/02/21 10:57 AM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
K
k snow Online content OP
trapper
k snow  Online Content OP
trapper
K

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
GCP, I've seen Hmong hunters put whole squirrels and chipmunks on coals. Singe the hair off and eat them. I'd have to be hungrier than I was to join them.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319768
08/02/21 10:58 AM
08/02/21 10:58 AM
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,365
W NY
Turtledale Offline
trapper
Turtledale  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 7,365
W NY
Not much I wouldn't eat if I was starving. Dog? Sure, probably taste like Thanksgiving turkey after going hungry for a week or more. The hide I would think would be the worst to eat. Bone soup actually sounds good. Eating another human..........well hopefully I'll never have to make that choice


NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319774
08/02/21 11:07 AM
08/02/21 11:07 AM
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 3,528
Southern Illinois
F
Foxpaw Offline
trapper
Foxpaw  Offline
trapper
F

Joined: May 2016
Posts: 3,528
Southern Illinois
4 or 5 years ago I was on my way to get groceries with 4 coolers in the back of the truck. I was taking the scenic route thru about 10 miles of backroads. I ran up on a tree leaning over the road and startled a buzzard which puked on my windshield and all my coolers. No smell that I have ever smelled was ever that bad. I had to go back home and wash and bleach everything. They kidded me at church and said God fed Elijah by the ravens. I told them I was not that hungry yet, but if God feeds me that way I hope he cleans it up at least a little or removes my sense of smell.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319798
08/02/21 11:31 AM
08/02/21 11:31 AM
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,594
NC, Orange Co.
QuietButDeadly Offline
trapper
QuietButDeadly  Offline
trapper

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 6,594
NC, Orange Co.
I have given rubbed up coyotes to a fella who was raised in Burma on occasion. He wants them left whole and burns the hair off without gutting them. I do not know handles them beyond that but he is always happy to get them.


Life Member: NCTA, VTA, NTA, TTFHA, MFTI
Member: FTA NRA NWTF
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319803
08/02/21 11:33 AM
08/02/21 11:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,716
Sandhills Nebraska
G
Gary Benson Offline
trapper
Gary Benson  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 21,716
Sandhills Nebraska
sick


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319811
08/02/21 11:49 AM
08/02/21 11:49 AM
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,175
McGrath, AK
W
white17 Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17  Offline

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
W

Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 35,175
McGrath, AK
I've eaten boiled marten on the trapline but not by choice. It was mightily terrible ! BUT.......I would do that again before I ate any part of a wolf. One thing is that wolves stink when skinning but marten don't.

Sort of like eating beaver if you are skinning them every day. The smell is so potent it reduces or eliminates my desire to eat it.

Saw a group of 'Yards roll the guts out of a deer into a large washtub and just start eating.


Mean As Nails
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: white17] #7319927
08/02/21 03:38 PM
08/02/21 03:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,360
East-Central Wisconsin
B
bblwi Offline
trapper
bblwi  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,360
East-Central Wisconsin
The underlayer of skin is mostly fatty tissue so if the fur can be removed then it could be healthy for them during the cold weather. Hair is 90 plus percent protein but how digestible it is in a single gutted animal like humans is questionable. Actually the tripe if cleaned up well would be decent calories as well. All that being said how likely would I be? I have never been that hungry so I don't really know. When I travelled in India it was interesting to hear how the diet impacted how fulfilled people could be with less then filling amounts of food. One disadvantage of being in their environment for extended periods of time and meat was about the only choice they had, it worked just like the meat diets of today, it gave them calories but burned off their body fat which would be needed if they were out for even longer time periods.

Bryce

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7319985
08/02/21 04:53 PM
08/02/21 04:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 649
tennessee
C
clintp1971 Offline
trapper
clintp1971  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 649
tennessee
Just an FYI , never eat the liver of a carnivore. Toxic levels of vitamin A I believe.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320361
08/03/21 12:22 AM
08/03/21 12:22 AM
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,539
fayette,al.
G
grisseldog Offline
trapper
grisseldog  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 5,539
fayette,al.
I use to work with a black man that wud take all the possums I cud bring him, he said he put them in the oven whole, hair on , guts still in them and cooked and eat them .
We had good paying jobs, so it wasn’t that he didn’t have money. He was happy when I brought them to him.

Randy Newberg ( He’s on YouTube) shot a wolf , they cooked and eat it, said it was good

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320587
08/03/21 09:44 AM
08/03/21 09:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,851
Wisconsin
T
The Beav Offline
trapper
The Beav  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 23,851
Wisconsin
The Hmong around here take my coyote carcasses they tell me they take the gall bladders and the stomach fat. Don't know if they use any other parts.


The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320589
08/03/21 09:48 AM
08/03/21 09:48 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,114
Minnesota
330-Trapper Offline

trapper
330-Trapper  Offline

trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63,114
Minnesota
Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by Law Dog
I’m a picky eater somewhere down the road I’d end up being the meal for those guys. LOL


One French Canadian in a group, of 5 Astorians suggested they draw straws to choose who became the meal. The party had one gun among them. One of the Company partners took the gun and pointed it at said French Canadian and said you're first. The guy begged for his life and vowed never to suggest it again. They did not eat him.

grin


NRA and NTA Life Member
www.BackroadsRevised@etsy.com




Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320624
08/03/21 10:46 AM
08/03/21 10:46 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,478
Tug Hill, NY
S
Squash Offline
trapper
Squash  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,478
Tug Hill, NY
The Lewis and Clark Expedition preferred dog meat over Pacific Salmon when they wintered on the Pacific Coast. Lately in my area there are some selling their coyote carcasses to people who are cooking and eating them. There was a person arrested in Rome , NY last winter barbecuing a coyote, because a neighbor reported him as cooking a domestic dog.

I’ve skinned many coyotes, and I think I would starve first.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320734
08/03/21 01:08 PM
08/03/21 01:08 PM
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,312
Montana
USMC47 🦫 Offline
trapper
USMC47 🦫  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,312
Montana
I was in the battle of Fallujah in 2004. I was in a semi-destroyed building where we had stopped to eat a little bit while waiting on an enemy sniper to be dealt with. I was eating the MRE with the 5 little hot dogs - we affectionately called it “the five fingers of death.” Because the part of the city I was in had been shelled as badly as it was, there was dried, raw sewage on the ground. It was mostly dust at this point. I was wagging that last finger of death at another Marine while telling a story and I dropped that little piggie! I was hungry! I grabbed it really quickly as if it hadn’t gotten contaminated yet. I poured a little water on it and my corpsman looked at me and said, “Don’t do it!” I ate that thing like an Ethiopian on a piece of rice and swallowed it. I never did get sick. It was delicious.


The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle.

www.derricks-nm.com
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: Squash] #7320736
08/03/21 01:09 PM
08/03/21 01:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,312
Montana
USMC47 🦫 Offline
trapper
USMC47 🦫  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 14,312
Montana
Originally Posted by Squash
The Lewis and Clark Expedition preferred dog meat over Pacific Salmon when they wintered on the Pacific Coast. Lately in my area there are some selling their coyote carcasses to people who are cooking and eating them. There was a person arrested in Rome , NY last winter barbecuing a coyote, because a neighbor reported him as cooking a domestic dog.

I’ve skinned many coyotes, and I think I would starve first.
I remember reading that L&C actually traded for a few dozen dogs to use as food.


The deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle.

www.derricks-nm.com
Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: USMC47 🦫] #7320738
08/03/21 01:10 PM
08/03/21 01:10 PM
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
K
k snow Online content OP
trapper
k snow  Online Content OP
trapper
K

Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 6,412
east central WI
Originally Posted by USMC47 🦫
Originally Posted by Squash
The Lewis and Clark Expedition preferred dog meat over Pacific Salmon when they wintered on the Pacific Coast. Lately in my area there are some selling their coyote carcasses to people who are cooking and eating them. There was a person arrested in Rome , NY last winter barbecuing a coyote, because a neighbor reported him as cooking a domestic dog.

I’ve skinned many coyotes, and I think I would starve first.
I remember reading that L&C actually traded for a few dozen dogs to use as food.


The Astorians travelling through the mountains ate a lot of dogs. The Indians would not trade or sell them any horses to eat.

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: k snow] #7320787
08/03/21 01:55 PM
08/03/21 01:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,360
East-Central Wisconsin
B
bblwi Offline
trapper
bblwi  Offline
trapper
B

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,360
East-Central Wisconsin
The documentary on Lewis and Clark stated they ate almost totally elk meat for the winter at Astoria.

Bryce

Re: How hungry would you have to be? [Re: charles] #7320798
08/03/21 02:03 PM
08/03/21 02:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,720
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
T
Trapper7 Offline
trapper
Trapper7  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 15,720
MN, Land of 10,000 Lakes
Originally Posted by charles
I think I could eat wolf, less it’s hair.

I tried wolf, didn't care for it. Also, tried smoked cougar. That was much better than timber wolf.


The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread