Trappers always said "Hunting would be next" edit
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Petition to Ban All Interstate Transport of Wildlife Would Cripple U.S. Hunters, Conservation Two groups want to ban the transportation of wildlife—including wild game—across state lines, thus crippling conservation, non-resident license revenue, and hunting in the U.S. as we know it
BY BOB MCNALLY | PUBLISHED AUG 9, 2021 12:46 PM
HUNTING CONSERVATION A wild game transportation ban would stop things like venison, feathers, hides, antlers, and more from crossing state lines. If this petition is ultimately successful, everything from taxidermy to venison would be banned from crossing state lines. OL SHARE Making that annual out-of-state family hunting trip to the old homestead could change dramatically if two environmental groups get their way. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and the Secretary of the Interior have been petitioned by two environmental groups seeking to ban all interstate transport of wild mammals and almost all birds, warns the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance. That includes all parts—such as meat, hides, and antlers—even if they’ve been properly processed by a butcher or taxidermist to comply with current CWD transportation laws.
This means your annual deer or elk hunt with family and friends may not result in a cooler full of venison crossing state lines to fill your freezers at home. And that record buck won’t be going on your wall if you shot it in a state where you don’t reside.
The Center for Biological Diversity and the Natural Resources Defense Council are leveraging fear of COVID-19 to push forth their anti-hunting agenda with the petition, which explains that “pandemics caused by zoonoses—infectious diseases that jump from animals to people—are entirely preventable.”
“We’ve said for years that the next iteration of an African import ban would be banning of game across state lines within the U.S.,” says Sportsmen’s Alliance vice president Brian Lynn. “And now here it is. By ending the transport of meat, hides, horns, feathers and such, much of the incentive for out-of-state hunting is removed. This is bad, and will have an impact on state license sales, revenue, Pittman-Robertson dollars and, ultimately, conservation. It will impact wild lands and the very wildlife these groups purport to want to protect.”
Ironically, the Center for Biological Diversity and Natural Resources Defense Council admit in the petition that their plan will not work without complimentary funding to foreign countries, as well as the U.S., to replace the lost revenues and markets. They even go so far as to suggest that U.S. conservation funding, largely paid for by hunters, be used to transition those people around the world to new markets and to fund conservation efforts overseas.
U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance “What CBD and NRDC don’t tell you is that these bans will cripple rural Africa, destroy decades of conservation work in range countries, will result in the loss of biodiversity when fertile habitat is turned into crop fields or pasture for livestock because wildlife will no longer have value,” Bruce Tague, vice president of government affairs at Sportsmen’s Alliance, said in the organization’s release.
Unlike state or federal legislation, which is subject to debate and vote, the petition asks the Secretary of the Interior, Deb Haaland, and the head of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Martha Williams, to use their authority under the Lacey Act, Endangered Species Act, and Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species to move the petition forward.
“The North American Model of Wildlife Conservation has a 100-year track record of success of returning game species from the brink of extinction, and [these extremist groups are] going to dismantle and destroy it,” says Lynn.
It remains unclear whether the DOI officials are receptive to the petition.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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Link doesn't work. This isn't about hunting, it's about trying to control CWD and other disease's in cervid's.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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Full story, don't know why it is not about hunting, trapping etc. About as broad as it can get.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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want to control CWD you need to put up nets at the state lines and keep any Raptor from crossing
deer dies of CWD , Raptor eats it , poops on vegetation miles away , deer eats it , prions live on
it has the guise of being about stopping CWD
it is about stopping everything
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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Link doesn't work. This isn't about hunting, it's about trying to control CWD and other disease's in cervid's. Antlers don't carry CWD, neither does cut and wrapped meat, or meat off the bone, or skins or furs. All of those would become illegal to transport across state lines. This is under the guise of CWD management when it's a direct assault on hunting. States game and fish departments will go broke without nonresident participation. Who wants to go hunt somewhere when you can't bring ANY part of the animal back? P-R funds will be decimated, and conservation funding in general will be gone.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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Jbyrd, pronghorn are not included in the prohibition, just the cervid species (moose, deer, elk, caribou). Clean skulls are allowed. It's the same here in Va.
From the Ky regs: If you hunt big game outside of Kentucky, you may not bring any member of the deer (Cervidae) family, which includes deer, caribou, moose and elk, back into Kentucky unless the brain and spinal column have been removed. Allowed parts from other states and provinces include: quarters or other portions of meat with no part of the spinal column or head attached, boned-out meat, antlers, antlers attached to a clean skull plate, a clean skull, clean teeth, hides and finished taxidermy products.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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I'm thinking that since it involves the Dept of Interior and the U.S. Fish and wildlife, it would mostly effect sportsman who hunt and trap on Federal lands. Does Federal law super-cede state law, when it comes to wildlife laws?
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They could make the deer wear masks…. The deer are too smart for that.
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Re: Trappers always said "Hunting would be next"
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Cant bring any brains spine or skulls into ky from other states now of deer ,elk, moose, prong horn. You're almost right... cleaned out skulls, AKA European mounts, are allowed. https://www.wmky.org/post/hunters-risk-prosecution-illegal-transportation-deerelk-carcassesHunters may bring back deboned meat, hindquarters, antlers attached to a clean skull plate, a clean skull, clean teeth, hides and finished taxidermy products. To help prevent the entry of CWD into the state, the Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife Resources discourages hunters from bringing back high-risk parts of deer or elk taken in any state, regardless of CWD status.
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