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Bet this won't be the only one. #7327169
08/11/21 01:13 AM
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https://www.wlbt.com/2021/08/10/lan...rXeD3q4M3LqSCG_WujEUFWbmfnBDusQpzthQ6j_U

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A landlord argued with his live-in tenants over unpaid rent before opening fire with a handgun in a small house near downtown Las Vegas early Tuesday, killing two women and wounding a man who survived nine gunshots, police said.

The shooting suspect, Arnoldo Lozano-Sanchez, 78, surrendered after a one-hour standoff with police who arrived about 12:30 a.m. to find one woman dead outside the pink one-story home and the wounded man coming out the door, said police Lt. Ray Spencer.

Police SWAT officers found the second woman dead inside the house, Spencer said.

The names of the dead women and the wounded man, all in their 50s, were not immediately made public. The man was hospitalized in critical condition.

Lozano-Sanchez was questioned by police and booked into the Clark County jail pending an initial court appearance Wednesday on murder and attempted murder charges. Records did not reflect if he had a lawyer.

Authorities had no immediate information about whether the rent dispute had any connection with a nationwide coronavirus pandemic eviction moratorium that expired last week and was then partially reinstated, Spencer said.

The modified moratorium, enacted under authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is facing legal challenges and is scheduled to expire Oct 3. It applies in areas of high transmission of the COVID-19 delta variant, including Nevada, where state health officials on Tuesday reported 1,125 new COVID-19 cases since Monday.

Police confiscated a 9mm handgun, Spencer said. The number of shots fired was not immediately known pending autopsies of the slain women.

One of the women left the three-bedroom house and returned before the fatal confrontation, Spencer said.

“We don’t know the specifics, but information from witnesses is that it’s all over money not paid for their portion of the rent,” Spencer said in an interview with The Associated Press.

Spencer said he didn’t know details about the rent dispute or the amount of money involved.

Property records show the home was built in 1945 and Lozano-Sanchez bought it in 1986. It is now surrounded by two-story apartment buildings fortified by high locked gates.

Neighborhood activists Paul Marino Jr. of Sober Homiez Outreach Ministry and James Mitchell, lead pastor at the House of Judah, stopped to pray together in front of the pink house but said they didn’t know the owner well.

The two men said they provide support to transient, homeless and low-rent residents in the several-block area shadowed by the Strat hotel tower and known locally as Naked City. A property manager said single-bedroom units on the block rent for about $750.

Rose Hernandez, a neighbor whose second-floor apartment overlooks the back of the pink house, said she looked out after midnight and saw Lozano-Sanchez sitting in a chair outside his back door when police arrived. She said she didn’t see a gun.

“He’s just sitting there, calm, like nothing happened,” Hernandez said.

Hernandez said she didn’t know Lozano-Sanchez personally but knew that he lived in the back of the house and often sat on the small patio between the house and its matching pink shed.

Christine Miller, an official with the Legal Aid Center of Southern Nevada that represents tenants in rent disputes, called the shooting a tragic event. She declined further comment until more facts are known.


~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327172
08/11/21 01:22 AM
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they are going all out to stay in power....I hear a 4 trillion anti poverty bill is next.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327194
08/11/21 04:53 AM
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They aren’t the only people that will be killed in this power struggle.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327308
08/11/21 08:46 AM
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People are nuts. The eviction moratorium cost me over $8k in unpaid rent for a tenant I couldn’t kick out. Never crossed my mind to shoot her up.


"I have two guns, one for each of ya."
Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327314
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Had a guy kill a landlord husband and wife here in Kentucky the other day when they showed up at the apartment. He then set it on fire. I haven’t heard for sure if this was eviction due to being a deadbeat or not. My question is, if they’re making more to stay at home than work what’s the issue with not paying rent? Is it because they know the govt. had their backs in this American way of life upheaval?

Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327333
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So people are getting paid more to stay home then going to work and can’t pay their rent I don’t get that.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Law Dog] #7327335
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
So people are getting paid more to stay home then going to work and can’t pay their rent I don’t get that.


Not can't, won't. They can't be evicted so they just don't pay.

Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Law Dog] #7327339
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The government has told them they don’t have to pay their rent, so they don’t. It’s not that they can’t in most cases, they just know that they can’t be kicked out so the spend their rent money elsewhere.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Marty] #7327340
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Originally Posted by Marty
they are going all out to stay in power....I hear a 4 trillion anti poverty bill is next.

Insanity.

Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327342
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Beat me to it k snow lol


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: k snow] #7327343
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by Law Dog
So people are getting paid more to stay home then going to work and can’t pay their rent I don’t get that.


Not can't, won't. They can't be evicted so they just don't pay.



Yep a matter of choice but I pay my bills so I don’t get it, they were getting rent money all along but did not pay hoping to get that paid for also.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327346
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It’s an integrity issue Law Dog. People just don’t have any.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Bob] #7327358
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Originally Posted by Bob
People are nuts. The eviction moratorium cost me over $8k in unpaid rent for a tenant I couldn’t kick out. Never crossed my mind to shoot her up.


I agree that the guy was crazy to shoot them. But when you read the story a picture starts to form. This man was 78... quite old. He also lived at the same house... it sounds as if it was a single house, and both he and the tenants lived there. If they haven't been paying rent for a year or better, it's quite likely that the landlord/owner is now behind on all the bills... mortgage, utilities, water, garbage, heat.... those bills just don't stop coming! Perhaps he thought that if he is now at the point he can no longer afford to live in his own house, at least he'll have a roof over his head and 3 meals a day in prison.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Bob] #7327369
08/11/21 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob

The government has told them they don’t have to pay their rent, so they don’t. It’s not that they can’t in most cases, they just know that they can’t be kicked out so the spend their rent money elsewhere.

The government left the door open, the renters have NO morals and made the choice not to pay their debt.


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Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327404
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I guess I've just been lucky. Or maybe it's the diligent screening and background checks I do on all tenants. That's my job, I get paid to manage apartment buildings.

Throughout this entire debacle I had only one tenant that couldn't or wouldn't pay for two months until his job was reclassified as "essential" and he went back to work.

He might have thought he was going to just sit back and not pay but I put him to work cleaning and painting a few vacant apartments. I put the money he earned towards his rent.


Eh...wot?

Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: Lugnut] #7327412
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I guess I've just been lucky. Or maybe it's the diligent screening and background checks I do on all tenants. That's my job, I get paid to manage apartment buildings.

Throughout this entire debacle I had only one tenant that couldn't or wouldn't pay for two months until his job was reclassified as "essential" and he went back to work.

He might have thought he was going to just sit back and not pay but I put him to work cleaning and painting a few vacant apartments. I put the money he earned towards his rent.



I thought I did a good job vetting my tenant. Called three previous landlords, called her boss, ran a credit check, all of them said good things. I blame my own inexperience though. I became a landlord by default, tried to sell the house but six months on the market and no offers so I thought if I rented it out I could at least have the mortgage paid. Now I wish I’d just let it sit vacant.


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The Democrats hate people who make something of themselves, as can be seen in the bills they are passing right now that reward laziness and cripple/tax the ones working.

Hard to believe people think this is good.

Re: Bet this won't be the only one. [Re: yotetrapper30] #7327445
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
https://www.wlbt.com/2021/08/10/lan...rXeD3q4M3LqSCG_WujEUFWbmfnBDusQpzthQ6j_U

LAS VEGAS (AP) — A landlord argued with his live-in tenants over unpaid rent before opening fire with a handgun in a small house near downtown Las Vegas early Tuesday, killing two women and wounding a man who survived nine gunshots, police said.



Shot the guy nine times and the victim is still alive? That shooter dude needs to put some time in at the range...!

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Originally Posted by Bob
Originally Posted by Lugnut
I guess I've just been lucky. Or maybe it's the diligent screening and background checks I do on all tenants. That's my job, I get paid to manage apartment buildings.

Throughout this entire debacle I had only one tenant that couldn't or wouldn't pay for two months until his job was reclassified as "essential" and he went back to work.

He might have thought he was going to just sit back and not pay but I put him to work cleaning and painting a few vacant apartments. I put the money he earned towards his rent.



I thought I did a good job vetting my tenant. Called three previous landlords, called her boss, ran a credit check, all of them said good things. I blame my own inexperience though. I became a landlord by default, tried to sell the house but six months on the market and no offers so I thought if I rented it out I could at least have the mortgage paid. Now I wish I’d just let it sit vacant.


Sounds like you did all you could as far as background checks before renting. Sometimes you just get a loser no matter how careful you are.


Eh...wot?

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I can't believe folks that are fluent in skunk essence would have eviction issues.

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