Re: Water restrictions
[Re: danvee]
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08/17/21 04:00 PM
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Great Lakes water can only be used within the Great Lakes watershed...I agree with those questioning why some live in the desert, yet want to water their gardens...
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: Turtledale]
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08/17/21 04:57 PM
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If they tap into the great lakes the lakes are doomed. People need to leave the desert. Don't deplete and abuse our natural resources, live in harmony with them. Turtle, With all due respect, how was that harmony with nature in 2017 and 2019 when the high water from Lake Ontario, and maybe Lake Erie was flooding people out ? w
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: J.Morse]
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08/17/21 05:12 PM
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If they tap into the great lakes the lakes are doomed. People need to leave the desert. Don't deplete and abuse our natural resources, live in harmony with them. Turtle, With all due respect, how was that harmony with nature in 2017 and 2019 when the high water from Lake Ontario, and maybe Lake Erie was flooding people out ? w All the states and Ontario have a pact betwixt themselves....NO water leaves the Great Lakes Basin without they all ok it. What are the chances of that? Slim-to-none. The day will come when a shooting war will be fought over the freshwater in the Great Lakes. It is likely in the not too distant future. We are lucky as heck in this area, we have water galore. It wouldn't take much to change all that. A few years with drought and it could all go away. About 20 years ago we had a spell of drouthy weather.......lakes dropped to lows like none of us had ever seen. The rivers and streams were trickles in places.......that was just through a dry spell, what if those spells turn into 3-4 years, or a decade or two? Our aquafers and water tables will drop in a big wownay. Maybe it won't happen, but it wasn't that long ago that the southern Great Plains dried up to the point that a huge population shift happened. Nothing stays the same for ever.......ask the folks that used to be commercial fishermen on the Aral Sea! If the states with more electoral votes decide they want Great lakes water, The Great Lakes Water Compact will be summarily shredded by the federal Gubmint. If we are already "wasting" water by dumping it down the St. Lawrence River in high water cycles, why not get ahead of the curve by diverting surplus to arid regions and leaving enough to keep Montreal afloat. You think if the Federal government wants our Great Lakes water they wouldn't seize it ? Better to get ahead of the curve and dictate the surplus water distribution on our Great Lakes State (and Canadian) terms. walleyed
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: walleyed]
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08/17/21 05:20 PM
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If they tap into the great lakes the lakes are doomed. People need to leave the desert. Don't deplete and abuse our natural resources, live in harmony with them. Turtle, With all due respect, how was that harmony with nature in 2017 and 2019 when the high water from Lake Ontario, and maybe Lake Erie was flooding people out ? w I would say the harmony was working pretty good, it's not a good idea to build where there isn't too much water and maybe not so good to build in areas that can flood
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: walleyed]
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08/17/21 05:25 PM
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If they tap into the great lakes the lakes are doomed. People need to leave the desert. Don't deplete and abuse our natural resources, live in harmony with them. Turtle, With all due respect, how was that harmony with nature in 2017 and 2019 when the high water from Lake Ontario, and maybe Lake Erie was flooding people out ? w Don't build in deserts Don't build in floodplains Same thing
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: KeithC]
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08/17/21 08:18 PM
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Well live in a desert and I guess you do without. Sam Kinnison has a great bit on this, that due to some foul language, I can't post here. Here is a transcript cleaned up. "You want to help world hunger? Stop sending them food. Don’t send them another bite, send them U-Hauls. Send them a guy that says, “You know, we’ve been coming here giving you food for about 35 years now and we were driving through the desert, and we realized there wouldn’t BE world hunger if you people would live where the FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!! UNDERSTAND THAT? YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!! NOTHING GROWS HERE! NOTHING’S GONNA GROW HERE! Come here, you see this? This is sand. You know what it’s gonna be 100 years from now? IT’S GONNA BE SAND!! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! We have deserts in America, we just don’t LIVE in them, morons!” Keith One of his best and he had a good point.
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: mike mason]
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08/17/21 08:21 PM
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15 to 20 years ago, plans were there to build a water pipeline from Alaska, I believe estimated cost was 10-20 billion. Drop in the bucket to the money the dems are throwing away on unicorn projects. At least it would put the welders to work that aren’t on the keystone pipeline, here we’re really dry the Iowa river could be crossed with knee boots I’m pretty sure we’ve lost quite a few beaver and muskrats, the beavers don’t bother me but it’s a shame.
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: BFP]
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08/18/21 12:33 AM
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There was an older gentleman that sat on the state water board the same time l did. He always said someday water will be worth money than oil, he may be right. The old man had foreseeable wisdom.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: J.Morse]
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08/18/21 07:29 AM
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All the states and Ontario have a pact betwixt themselves....NO water leaves the Great Lakes Basin without they all ok it. What are the chances of that? Slim-to-none. The day will come when a shooting war will be fought over the freshwater in the Great Lakes. It is likely in the not too distant future. We are lucky as heck in this area, we have water galore. It wouldn't take much to change all that. A few years with drought and it could all go away. About 20 years ago we had a spell of drouthy weather.......lakes dropped to lows like none of us had ever seen. The rivers and streams were trickles in places.......that was just through a dry spell, what if those spells turn into 3-4 years, or a decade or two? Our aquafers and water tables will drop in a big way. Maybe it won't happen, but it wasn't that long ago that the southern Great Plains dried up to the point that a huge population shift happened. Nothing stays the same for ever.......ask the folks that used to be commercial fishermen on the Aral Sea! Remember that marinas where high and dry, had to shut down. Ferry's could not run because the docks where not usable. Anyone remember Cape Town in South Africa running out of water? Not sure what happened there but it was in the news a couple of years ago. The water was basically rationed by the town shutting it off for sections of the town on a rotating basis. Hong Kong had the same thing happen in the 60's I believe, the water was only turned on for parts of the day.
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Re: Water restrictions
[Re: BFP]
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08/18/21 10:56 AM
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There was an older gentleman that sat on the state water board the same time l did. He always said someday water will be worth money than oil, he may be right. I couldn't agree more. People just keep moving in from out of state and expect the water to be there. And it probably will be for those willing to pay. My son, who works for the Department of Water Quality, always says, Water doesn't flow down hill, it flows toward money.
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