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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: beeman] #7334400
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Originally Posted by beeman
24 pages of bashing Biden when Trump and Pompeo cut a deal with the Taliban. Did anyone really believe these thugs could be trusted to keep their word.

I laugh at the hypocrisy here. If in the past anyone criticized Trump the thread was deemed Political and was deleted.



Lying Libs coming out of the woodwork. The deal that Biden carried out was not Trump and Pomeo's deal. You can continue to claim it is and continue to expose yourself as the fool you are!

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334408
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Doesn't much matter what happened before, this one is squarely on ol' creepy joe.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334420
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People blaming Trump .......lol

Trump's plan included consequences


With China schmoe the Taliban is partying like Rock Stars


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Iowagian] #7334421
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Originally Posted by Iowagian
Originally Posted by Boco
Trump and the Taliban signed the Doha agreement on Feb 29 2020,saying the states would be gone from afghanistan by May 1 2021.

They had plenty of time to leave.

It is no wonder the Taliban blitzed the country.They had plenty of time to organize when Trump stupidly agreed to a date.

Originally Posted by Boco
Trump and the Taliban signed the Doha agreement on Feb 29 2020,saying the states would be gone from afghanistan by May 1 2021.

They had plenty of time to leave.

It is no wonder the Taliban blitzed the country.They had plenty of time to organize when Trump stupidly agreed to a date.


He didn't agree to a "date". That was a conditional date. It wasn't set in stone as Trump etc. have explained. If you think there is evidence that Trump set a firm date and didn't set conditions and those calls or General Milley himself hasn't leaked those to the MSM...then I don't know what you're smoking. This is all on DementiaJoe. The withdrawal is all his.


Semantics-Taliban dont play semantics-they knew the date and knew the meaning of the date-they broke the ageement from day one with no consequences.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334437
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Trump's plan was conditional and consequences were established. That's why I posted his interview with Hannity. You could hear it from the horses mouth or the donkey rear end media.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334453
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What consequences?
The Taliban broke the agreement from day one with zero consequences-like i said-semantics.The taliban knew the states wanted out at any cost and there would be no consequences as they continued to attack the afghan forces.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334454
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Biden wakes up every morning at 10:00 am and takes a phone call from Obama to find out what to do that day.
On every subject , from what tie to were to policy he should make. It’s obvious that the Military Generals , CIA , etc all were waiting for Biden to make a Presidential decision. He had 7 months to come up with the plan but he was to out of it to even discuss with his advisers on what to do. Biden cannot focus on a complex problem for 15 minutes. To many moving parts for him. So you get unelected people calling the shots and this is what you get. I bet you can not find a Zip drive in Washington DC today because they are sold out to Biden advisers keeping every email they ever sent. If Biden is willing to give 10,000 Americans a death sentence in Afghanistan with out a Moments thought what do you think is going to happen to his military advisers over this ? . He is already putting the blame on every one but himself. Get ready for 58 years of American hostages in Afghanistan and the Taliban using all of our weapons against us. Just think of all small weapons like Ar15 rifles , ammo , night vision thermal vision , humvies they have taken in the last 7 days. Not counting all the aircraft. I am sure China is looking and digging into all of our aircraft right now. Biden has Alzheimer’s let’s hope his wife steps up and confirms it says he has to step down for health reasons and the good of the country. The problem is look who will take his place ….we are in a world of hurt right now. MD

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334457
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Taliban was sleeping after the tentative agreement with them, however they woke up when Biden announced the leaving in full

Some people just can't understand that and continue to pound on Trump.

Got to give them credit for stating their opinion, false as a True Democrat can be !!


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334464
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Did you even read the doha agreement???
It clearly states the Taliban will assure a ceasefire with the afghan govt forces and enter into peace talks toward a coalition govt with them.No such thing took place.The Taliban continued to take territory and did not enter into any peace talks with the afghan govt.
Trump agreed to pull all US people out in 14 months and not to interfere in any afghan affairs in the interim.
The Taliban had their date and ramped up accordingly for their Blitz.
Trump did nothing because he did not want to be seen as being responsible for breaking the doha agreement by interfering in afghan domestic affairs.

if there were going to be any so called consequences for the Taliban breaking the agreement it should have taken place about 3 days after the agreement was signed when the Taliban was attacking and routing afghan army and not lviing up to the ceasefire and peace talks agreed to.

The taliban got what they wanted including the release of their fighters and a date for the west to leave and carried on with buisness as usual.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334469
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Creepy joe has already placed blame elsewhere and moved on to covid again. What a guy, that joe.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334472
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A quote from former presidential candidate " at this point what difference dose it make"

A lot of people will die and we gave the enemy hundreds of millions of high tec military hard ware. But Americans should not have semi autos in our country.

If we could get past the narrative of my guy vs your guy and see both are the same being bought and paid for then maybe just maybe we would have a chance.

But I see little hope of that.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334492
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The Biden State Department moved in June to cancel a program overseeing the protection and evacuation of American citizens stationed overseas in the case of an emergency, just as the Taliban was taking over Afghanistan, according to an internal State Department memo obtained by the Washington Free Beacon and multiple sources familiar with the matter.

The Biden State Department moved to dissolve the Trump-era crisis response program, according to an internal State Department memo and sources familiar with the matter. That memo, which was marked sensitive but unclassified and was signed by Deputy Secretary Brian McKeon, approved the “discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR),” a new State Department entity created during the Trump administration to coordinate emergency response services overseas.

Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334493
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Boco…. Does not matter what was agreed on by who. Even Trump. Trump has backed out of so many contracts in his life. My God the man has filed bankruptcy I think 2 times and divorced 2 times. What makes you think Trump would not stand up and say I don’t care what I signed or any one else. If 1 American is not allowed to leave your god forsaken country I will turn your Country into a giant sheet of glass. I will drop the big one on you.
Taliban knew it too that’s why we had no problem until Biden got in. Does any one really think that Trump would turn his back on 10,000 Americans behind enemy lines. I am afraid you Demos are on wrong side of the argument here. You look foolish trying to defend Biden actions. America will suffer for a long long time because what Biden did this week and its not even close to being done with. No telling what Biden will do next. Maybe fill 2000 duffle bags with 100 dollar bills and give it to the taleban like Obama did. We sure got are moneys worth on that deal.
As you can tell I am fired up on this issue. I have a friend that was a translator in military and has close friends and distant family in Afghanistan. It’s a bad deal for sure. MD


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334526
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334550
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I wonder how long till the chinks hit Taiwan?


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Marty] #7334554
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Originally Posted by Marty
I wonder how long till the chinks hit Taiwan?


If I was them I’d be nervous about now and if I was China I’d go right now.


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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: beeman] #7334555
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Originally Posted by beeman
24 pages of bashing Biden when Trump and Pompeo cut a deal with the Taliban. Did anyone really believe these thugs could be trusted to keep their word.

I laugh at the hypocrisy here. If in the past anyone criticized Trump the thread was deemed Political and was deleted.



Looks like Biden believed everything, things are so much better now Ya know. LOL

Last edited by Law Dog; 08/19/21 10:07 PM.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334556
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If thousands of Americans are now stuck behind enemy lines, then Biden owes it to the American people to account for how that happened. Were they warned, and given every chance to get out? Was our government restricting or delaying their departure?

Did someone make a miscalculation? Who did, and what is being done to rectify it?

We should also protect those who worked with us and get them out as soon as possible.

Hard to believe this exit was planned for. Heads should roll.

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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan. [Re: Gary Benson] #7334559
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So your saying it can be done but they keep saying it cannot be done? Got it.


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This will answer a lot of your questions. If it was on a different platform I would provide the link. This is the only place I've seen it.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMRF8gak8/

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