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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleye101] #7338887
08/24/21 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
It's a tough market right now no matter if you ship to FHA-PT, or if you conduct your own PT sale with Groney. My concern is that if the last big auction house does go under, future PT sales with Groney will never yield more than trinkets and beads.



Part of the problem is that Groeny is already bartering in trinkets and beads. I sold my low grade beaver at FHA for more than he offered nose count. FHA held my selects.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: LLtrapper] #7338984
08/24/21 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Boco
That doesnt make sense-a lot of fur sold at PT is because there were no acceptable bids in the auction room in order to hold the value on the subsequent lots.


You actually said something that made sense. The buyers give no acceptable bids on the auction room floor. They meet up later in the treat room where they somehow make a bid that is lower but acceptable. would you mind explaining on which planet that makes even a bit of sense? Again another laughable comment. LLL


If you knew how the auction works you would know what I am talking about.
If they drop on the better goods by the time they run down the lots there is no room for the lesser skins.
So the buyers cant get the better goods for a lower price so they either take lesser goods closer to value or go to the privat treaty room and buy within the original price parameter.They are buisnessmen you cant blame them for trying.
The auctioneers at FHA know all their tricks but are a bit too smart for them.
Lesser goods are sold freely into the market when the market is weak,there is no advantage to anyone ,trapper or auction house,to inventory those type of skins.

Last edited by Boco; 08/24/21 11:41 PM.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: wissmiss] #7339010
08/25/21 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
Private treaty isn’t that bad. And they don’t always sell for less in the PT room.

On “hot” items like wolves and wolverine, there isn’t much if anything left when that species is finished in the auction room.

If a species, say fisher, sells well in the auction room, there aren’t any bargains in the PT room. They hold at value or maybe 10% more.

Yes, there can be “bargains” in the PT room but overall it is an option for selling goods outside the live or online auction.

Of course, you have to look at the PT process with an open mind, which is difficult for some of you to do……………

Originally Posted by wissmiss
Private treaty isn’t that bad. And they don’t always sell for less in the PT room.



On “hot” items like wolves and wolverine, there isn’t much if anything left when that species is finished in the auction room.

If a species, say fisher, sells well in the auction room, there aren’t any bargains in the PT room. They hold at value or maybe 10% more.

Yes, there can be “bargains” in the PT room but overall it is an option for selling goods outside the live or online auction.

Of course, you have to look at the PT process with an open mind, which is difficult for some of you to do……………



My dad had a bobcat sell for 1000.00 in PT last fall, I had one sell for 400.00. If that was at a reduced price I’d sure like to know what they was really worth. I have 2 bobcats at nafa that was prevalued at 900, and we all know what happened, just my 2 cents.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339184
08/25/21 11:27 AM
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I had top quality marten that fha held for 2 years amd sold pt for Xmas for 36 dollar average . In march,april smaller but same grade and color leftovers sold at auctiom for 57 dollar average. Experts?













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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339189
08/25/21 11:33 AM
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So how has Groneys Bobcat buying worked out I have not heard anyone talking that deal up?

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339456
08/25/21 06:18 PM
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Received my check today, they sold 1 fisher and 1 beaver, now I can go buy 3 gallon of gas. But the fisher was a grade ll,, and the beav was damaged.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: upstateNY] #7339465
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by sweetwilliam
I agree with boco if you trap and ship junk to the auction house you can expect to receive a small amount in return.

What a crock out of both of you.Fur market sucks lately just admit it.You can make a few bucks tanning and hooping and specialty stuff,,sure.But in general for the average trapper,,not so much.

You keep crawling around in the bat fecies,I'll be out in Gods country at the rivers and lakes trapping prime fur for 2oo$ a day.(thats only 7 beaver counting castor at the last sales price).Other fur pays the expenses which are negligible since I am out in the bush all fall and winter anyway.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339491
08/25/21 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
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You keep crawling around in the bat fecies,I'll be out in Gods country at the rivers and lakes trapping prime fur for 2oo$ a day.(thats only 7 beaver counting castor at the last sales price).Other fur pays the expenses which are negligible since I am out in the bush all fall and winter anyway.


Your time is worth very little I can see. I assume that the fur does not get skinned and put up by itself and even if you are fast those seven still take you a couple hours to skin, scrape, board, take off the board, bag up and get ready to ship or do you have fairies that do it while you sleep? lol. LLL


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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339547
08/25/21 08:26 PM
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7 beaver clean skinned and in the freezer in an hour and a half no problem. Skinned in the evening at camp after the wood chores,just another job at camp,while chewing the fat and having a few cold ones with a partner-Put them up in winter outside in spare time while doing other stuff.
I guess your idea of work and mine is two different things.bagging grading and sizing beaver is a pleasure not work-like counting money.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339551
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Yabut Boco, think of all the game shows and reality TV you could be watching if you weren't out there trappin, skinin, and boardin and stuff.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339558
08/25/21 08:35 PM
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Yea,now I'm depressed I cant sit around all day and do nothing for 0 dollars.
On second thought,I'll take the outdoor life at camp.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339637
08/25/21 10:07 PM
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I guess you socialists look at things differently than we capitalists. You have to count all that time or you are working for FHA.

Do you count any breakdowns or purchase price on your snow machines or I suppose you just count the gas. LLL



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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339652
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I been riding snowmachines since 1965 and 3 and 4 wheelers almost as long.Used a snowmachine to get to school.They are vehicles here-we need them to get around for our lifestyle.Of course the portion used to earn income is calculated as capital cost.
It is very little cost related to trapping.hardly no gas and very little milage to run lines.I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339709
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Laugh all you want Batman,I just helped both my kids buy new homes.
I lead a simple life-I have no need for hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting in a bank til I croak and having a bunch of people fighting over it..

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339736
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Originally Posted by Boco
I been riding snowmachines since 1965 and 3 and 4 wheelers almost as long.Used a snowmachine to get to school.They are vehicles here-we need them to get around for our lifestyle.Of course the portion used to earn income is calculated as capital cost.
It is very little cost related to trapping.hardly no gas and very little milage to run lines.I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.

LIKE


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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339752
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Boco is living the life he likes, nothing wrong with that. Not many people can make that claim. I am glad for you Boco,


I got myself a seniors' GPS.
Not only does it tell me how to get to my destination,
it tells me why I wanted to go there.
Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339758
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Yup lifestyle....attitude.

Crazy the array of perception.

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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339779
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Keep at it Boco, some people worship the almighty dollar.

Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: Boco] #7339795
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Originally Posted by Boco
I been riding snowmachines since 1965 and 3 and 4 wheelers almost as long.Used a snowmachine to get to school.They are vehicles here-we need them to get around for our lifestyle.Of course the portion used to earn income is calculated as capital cost.
It is very little cost related to trapping.hardly no gas and very little milage to run lines.I buy a new bike and snowmachine every few years just to have a write off,or i would be paying too much taxes here in sociable land.I got so much trapping stuff I had to build more sheds.
I calculate trapping expense when hunting fishing and cutting roads to new lakes etc since it is all related to living on the trapline.
I dont really consider that work I consider it living the good life.The kind of freedom some of you guys dont understand,obviously.

My life is not ruled by the almighty dollar,actually i use very little actual money compared to income to live my life.

All the extra money I dont use I give it away.But it just keeps rolling in for some reason.


So you write off your pleasure vehicles since it is by your own words pleasure and not work. Sounds right. You are not giving your money away but the taxpayer's. Perfect example of socialism.
crazy LLL


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Re: FHA Check arrived this morning [Re: walleyed] #7339833
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Read it again einstein-only the percentage used to earn income.
Do you know what log books are for Captain Capitalism?

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