Is an atheist. You can't make stuff like that up.

Merriam-Webster

"Definition of chaplain
1: a clergyman in charge of a chapel
2: a clergyman officially attached to a branch of the military, to an institution, or to a family or court
3: a person chosen to conduct religious exercises (as at a meeting of a club or society)
4: a clergyman appointed to assist a bishop (as at a liturgical function)"

Keith

And some on here say the Bible is all made up. This was written about by John the Revelator.

You'd be hard pressed to name an Ivy League school that wasn't founded by a Christian preacher to train Christian preachers. Liberalism destroys everything it touches.

He's a Humanist. I suppose it could be argued that he views humans as the highest being and thus our own gods. Look at all the self centered egotistical manipulative people today..... Might be the religion of our country now.

Just another example of the cultural progression regarding religion in America.

I just completed a Clinical Pastoral Education internship for 12 weeks and during those 400 clinical hours in a major hospital in south Texas, I supported 92 bereavements during 60 clinic days.

Institutions can change the chaplain office title to "spiritual directors," as many in America are now doing, or anything else they want (the name chaplain is as old as the 4th century)
but I found those at the end of their life, whether 15 or 95 years old, think incredibly deeply about this life. And not at all about the topics people think are "vital." Not at all. The crap gets laid aside.
It was incredibly hard, wondrous learning for this trapper who will also be where they are one day.
So it is written.

Blessings,
Mark

Ah..... I had to look up who Harvard (founded by the Puritans and named after one of their pastors) brought in to oversee the spiritual directors.


Ah...... Greg Epstein, author of “Good Without God."

So...... Pelagius lives on. The 4th century heretic's thesis is being regurgitated by Mr. Epstein in our post-modern times.

Interesting how these modern creative minds suffer from the illusion of original thinking.

It's ages old and it's legions are many and among us still.
No thanks Mr. Epstein. Me and mine will stick with the depravity of sin in me storyline from Scripture.
It helps believers understand suffering in this life while waiting for the Promise of eternal Hope of the Gospel
None of that in your religion of eat - drink - and be merry.

Blessings,
Mark

Not to worry, if it happens its God's will ! Don't fight it, whatever will be will be.

Foxpaw sir. Perhaps grace for those believers who don't think as you do would be appropriate.

Wow that's over 1 1/2 per day. That would be a wall full if you could just get them on the barn. So do you get a trophy of some kind or just bragging rights . Or will God claim it at some point.

Bingo bango Pike River!
It is the post-modern religion of our time. Humanism has been elevated in the Western world these past 200 years that everyone today has been elevated to the place of god. Believe what you want. Do what you think is best. It's not about authority of any sort. It's all about whatever you want.

A lot of you's are clashing lately in case anyone hasn't noticed.
And there's no end of the youism clash in sight.

Our forefathers, while they fought, could at least lay down spears at points and agree to seek a higher power's guidance and providence to maintain societal norms.
No such luck in 2021 America.
The norms flood gates are wide open.
And getting wider - and wilder.
It'll get wilder and wilder as the you's have their way.

Us Christians are a bit apocalyptic because we're told how it all ends.
Society is right on track.

Blessings,
Mark

Wow Foxpaw. I wasn't aiming to brag but to point out a reality. We live in real times. Not make-believe.
Did you just make a statement like this? For real?

I believe it was you which was quick to jump on me for what you thought was a claim of victory just over a debate of words. We are talking people now aren't we.

You win. I lose.

Wow, Is that truly how Marks post should be read? Wow.

Believe me as far as winning or losing I have my sights on a higher goal. But I understand your thought that I can't work my way to Heaven. I find it funny/sad that the biggest controversy in church in my lifetime has been about evolution. Funny in that no place is worse about the big fish eating the little fish than in the church world. The sad because no place is worse about the big fish eating the little fish than in the church world.

Mr. foxpaw, you ought to tread lightly. You're fixing to get the boot for being contentious when there's no need for it. You seem to want the focus to be on you.

Foxpaw has been struggling with the doctrine of election for at least a few days now and feels the need to interject these snide little remarks wherever he can. You're argument is with God and your prospects of winning don't look too good to me.

I understand, please delete out all my offensive comments or leave them for record.

What about not posting them? Mark is a good man doing good work. He's always willing to have a conversation or debate but your shot was out of line.

If you need to get that negative energy out of your system, come over to one of the political threads.