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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: James] #7341547
08/28/21 12:08 PM
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Now that’s down right funny! I suppose you think OJ was innocent and the earth is flat!

Oh wait that’s right you live in the largest city close to Alaska,LOL

The Russians are not our friends, especially after their meddling in the 2016 election.

Jim[/quote]


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341553
08/28/21 12:18 PM
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If they were really our friends, they would have meddled in 2020.

Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341554
08/28/21 12:19 PM
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We have had missionaries/NGOs helping in Africa as long as I can remember food, water, housing, medical mercy ships have been there forever what have they done for us is my question?


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341556
08/28/21 12:21 PM
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Supply several million slaves to the New World?

Jim


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341557
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When I was in Africa, most of the vehicles I saw were made in China.

Jim


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: James] #7341564
08/28/21 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Supply several million slaves to the New World?

Jim



Just your usual games you had to go back a few hundred years to make a outdated point no slaves long before all of us were born here.


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341570
08/28/21 12:31 PM
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You said we've been helping them "forever," and asked what they've done for us.

I gave you an answer. Never said you'd like the answer. The slave trade lasted several hundred years, and much of US history.

Jim


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Law Dog] #7341571
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by James
Supply several million slaves to the New World?

Jim



Just your usual games you had to go back a few hundred years to make a outdated point no slaves long before all of us were born here.


lol

So enjoyable.


-Goofy-
Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341600
08/28/21 01:01 PM
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I had my hernia in 2016 at that time the local hospital was saying they had helped the one millionth person in Africa recently, later that week I wrote a check for $3,000 to get my surgery done, I felt so blessed. LOL


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Oh Snap] #7341650
08/28/21 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
The real threat is this administration, PERIOD!

For sure.

Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341679
08/28/21 02:42 PM
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Jerry asked what have they done for us.

Jim responds that they provided us with slaves.


I'd say the current governments had nothing to do with slavery but they do control precious resources. Thats why we should be concerned about influence.

As far as slaves are concerned.....those human resources woukd be no different than the tea that the east provided to the west other than that by them being human resources it has caused great division and struggle in the Americas. We don't owe Africa anything for slavery. If anything we need to continue the struggle to unite as a unique people made up of various races and ethnic groups.

Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341686
08/28/21 02:52 PM
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Many of the slave traders were blacks selling other Blacks back then, Alaska was not even a State if that somehow matters. LOL I have no problem with helping out others in less fortunate places. Just charging me 3Gs and my insurance even more then give away the same service thousands of miles away for free seems unbalanced.


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Jerry Herbst
Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341690
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Health care was somewhat affordable before we got the affordable care act....they got away with that farce and cost lots of people 3x more.....now they have gotten away with much more and they continue to screw the USA. Seems like they are working on humiliating/degrading the military right now..our military might is what keeps the dollar as the default currency..


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341757
08/28/21 04:21 PM
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The ACA not only raised prices it caused a decrease in coverage and preventive benefits so it cost more then a guy thinks now. My guess a lot was taken away from paid coverage to save on the ACA requiring them to give away the same coverage then.

The ones that wanted it would not pay for it, the ones that needed it could not afford it and the free ones come out the best like always. I see ads with people bragging the don’t have any premiums to pay it just warms my heart knowing that!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Law Dog] #7341791
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Africa is the fastest growing market and with 1.5 billion people it has twice as many as North America has and growing fast. China has been funding infrastructure in many areas of Africa for decades. The see markets and resources and are willing to invest. We hear a lot about subsaharan Africa and yes there are many issues with that region but there is a lot of Africa with resources and assets that China can use. I am sure Russia is entering because they are as afraid of China as any one is.

Bryce

Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Pike River] #7341804
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If you break it all down they are doing what we have done for many years and nations have done forever around the world.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Russians in Africa [Re: bblwi] #7341875
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Africa is the fastest growing market and with 1.5 billion people it has twice as many as North America has and growing fast. China has been funding infrastructure in many areas of Africa for decades. The see markets and resources and are willing to invest. We hear a lot about subsaharan Africa and yes there are many issues with that region but there is a lot of Africa with resources and assets that China can use. I am sure Russia is entering because they are as afraid of China as any one is.

Bryce

Yup. China's OBOR project is to make these African nation indebted to them for their infrastructure projects. They them use that for leverage in order to have exclusive naval and shipping ports and rights to resources.

America did something similar after WWII with the rebuilding of Europe and Japan.

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My take on Trump and Russia:

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer"


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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: Law Dog] #7342003
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Many of the slave traders were blacks selling other Blacks back then, Alaska was not even a State if that somehow matters. LOL I have no problem with helping out others in less fortunate places. Just charging me 3Gs and my insurance even more then give away the same service thousands of miles away for free seems unbalanced.

They are successful capitalists.
They can do what they want with their money including reducing their tax liability by writing off a large chunk thru altruistic methods.

Successful capitalists give away money all the time usually for that reason.

Last edited by Boco; 08/28/21 09:19 PM.

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Re: Russians in Africa [Re: James] #7342069
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Originally Posted by James
The US has long ignored most of Africa, not including Northern Africa. The Russians and Chinese are both threats to us there, competitively and literally.

The Russians are not our friends, especially after their meddling in the 2016 election.

Jim

It's sure a good thing that the Russians were not successful in installing Hillary .

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