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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343619
08/30/21 06:20 PM
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I'm curious with hunting season approaching and lots of folks carrying guns in the brush, what's gonna happen if there's a confrontation out there or a hunter feels threatened?

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: KeithC] #7343641
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by bblwi
The same business owners that write checks to the GOP to close the border are also the firms that hire those workers. A very good example of the hypocrisy and duplicity in our culture. Illegal immigration is not a Red or Blue deal it is a Green deal for those that hire.

Bryce


This seems very, very, very, unlikely. Do you have any proof that this is true?

Where did you get your "fact"?

Keith

Think I'd have to call BS on that one as well.

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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: beaverpeeler] #7343713
08/30/21 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Human migration is not anything new or unique to the USA. Been going on as long as humans have been around. Borders come and go....as long as the grass is greener it will continue.


Thereís differences from a few generations ago. One I can think of is Frank Hamer and other Texas Rangersí policy of shoot first ask questions later.

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: tomahawker] #7343734
08/30/21 08:05 PM
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The way most firms get out of the hiring issue is they subcontract and may illegals have formed thousands of firms. The employer does not have to fill out 1-9 forms or W-2s for subcontract work as they are considered temporary and or they do the task on their time and under their direction Not as true for all the meat packing firms as regular schedules and shifts are necessary. We had a big hail storm go through our area 4-5 years ago, dozens of rooves needed replacing. There were two firms that did the bulk of the rooves. They were not from the area and they sub contracted all the crews and they were not legal citizens. How most become illegal is they get temporary status and overstay their time. Those with funds can pay to get a really good set of ID and other information as well. Some that use labor regularly have put their crews on a shift bases and thus the subcontractor gets paid and he/she pays the workers. The bigger issue over the last decade or so is more and more of those that cross the boarder have even limited reading comprehension in their native language .

Bryce
Below is a link how one firm has worked out getting illegals to their plant.
https://blog.caesarnapoli.com/real-reason-american-companies-hire-undocumented-immigrants/

Last edited by bblwi; 08/30/21 08:10 PM.
Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Mark June] #7343814
08/30/21 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark June
One of my long time ranch managers near Quamado quit last week. Got shot at a month ago to keep his nose outta the traffickers business.
It's wide open south of Del Rio.


Mark the whole stinking border is wide open, just more illegals pouring into the LRGV.
Two of those pictures are from near Bracketville.

I had a friend that had a farm at El Indio but I haven't been in touch with him lately. I think he may have sold it.


Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: bblwi] #7343861
08/30/21 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
The same business owners that write checks to the GOP to close the border are also the firms that hire those workers. A very good example of the hypocrisy and duplicity in our culture. Illegal immigration is not a Red or Blue deal it is a Green deal for those that hire.

Bryce


We live in the middle of it with all the packing houses. I have watched the big 3 since I was a kid. In the 80ís they brought in the Vietnamese, 90ís and early 2000ís the Mexicans and now the Somalis. It takes time but the groups finally figure out they are being used as cheap labor so they bring another ethnicity in. All for the mighty dollar. Greed is not just found in Socialist although itís overwhelming there.


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: beaverpeeler] #7343862
08/30/21 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Human migration is not anything new or unique to the USA. Been going on as long as humans have been around. Borders come and go....as long as the grass is greener it will continue.


Make no mistake this is not migration or immigration it a full blown planned invasion!


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343874
08/30/21 10:34 PM
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I believe in the rule of law. We have immigration laws, and we ought to enforce them.

If Congress decides to change the law, so be it. Until that happens, the president ought to enforce the law.

Does anyone know what's happening to these people? Are we deporting them? If not, then the blame does fall on Biden.

Jim


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343879
08/30/21 10:48 PM
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You think Biden is unaware of the problem? That seems rhetorical based on his decline but you know what I mean. It's as intentional as can be. He should be impeached and removed from office.

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343882
08/30/21 11:06 PM
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I agree it should be addressed by Congress because we need the labor and they are coming anyway.

And, end welfare--which would also help address labor shortfall and provide many benefits to the Country in general.

But an immigration fix is not going to happen anytime soon. One large faction only wants the Latinos to add drones to its hive. The other large faction just hates "Mexicans" and/or loves to blame "Mexicans" for just about everything--until they "need a Mexican.".


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343889
08/30/21 11:11 PM
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Blaine, ending welfare ain't going to happen.

I believe in trying to curb welfare abuses, but not in ending all welfare programs. Some people genuinely need the help.

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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343891
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I can dream.

And, neither is stopping illegal immigration--while we have welfare.


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343894
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And, it's not the illegal immigrants on welfare. It's the Americans on the dole that are not filling the jobs--the jobs the the illegals will fill. A big loop.


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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: James] #7343897
08/30/21 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Blaine, ending welfare ain't going to happen.

I believe in trying to curb welfare abuses, but not in ending all welfare programs. Some people genuinely need the help.

Jim


They shouldnt discriminate against the working man.
The working man should get the same welfare as those not working,to be fair.
Otherwise the working man will have no incentive to climb above the rest,because those not working are just as well off as he is working.

Last edited by Boco; 08/30/21 11:20 PM.
Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343899
08/30/21 11:21 PM
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Interesting point, Boco.

I think we should give half of these illegals van rides to the Canadian border. Let Canada help with the problem.

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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343900
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Our border is secure,they wont get in.
Take them in Alaska.
I wonder if Dozy Joe will re settle some in Alaska?

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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: James] #7343906
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Originally Posted by James
Round them up and send them back. We shouldn't have any use for illegals.

My wife is a legal immigrant who jumped through hoops and paid fees to be here. These people make her mad.

Jim


you should of voted for Trump Jimmy, he's the only president in a long time who did anything positive about Illegal aliens in a long time.

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343907
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James:

From a legal standpoint, if that picture is really a picture of private land, Is there anything a Landowner can do to prevent these illegal trespassing's ? Would an electric fence across that pathway be legal ?

Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7343909
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Why would I do a silly thing like voting for that detestable Trump?

And didn't his Great Wall fall into the river?

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Re: Not Undocumented Migrants [Re: Boco] #7343910
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Originally Posted by Boco




They shouldnt discriminate against the working man.
The working man should get the same welfare as those not working,to be fair.
Otherwise the working man will have no incentive to climb above the rest,because those not working are just as well off as he is working.


Yea, who is going to pay the welfare of the working man and the welfare leech?
Maybe we should stiffen up welfare requirements first.
Then lower them so that there is an incentive to work,
and to top it off how about we get the gov't to spend less money so we don't inflate the dollar to worthless.

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