There should be no exceptions ,none,--if I can not trap, than their should be no government trappers, home owner trapping problem animals should be strictly forbidden.If I am excluded from trapping than everybody else should be also.Period.

Exactly Phil. I've been saying that forever. Look at Co. All the trappers out there have been turned into ADC trappers. While I agree the stupids that make such laws should pay....I say, let them choke on their precious critters! Pass stupid laws, pay for your actions!

You guys dont get it.
Indians are sovereign Nations,they make their own laws they do not recognize laws imposed by the colonizers.
They couldnt give a crap what your government allows you to do or doesnt allow you to do.
They have their own government and their own laws and those laws allow them to hunt fish and trap.It is all written in treatys which are nation to nation agreements.These treatys in a lot of cases are ratified by the supreme court.They have been tested and passed the legal tests,and in fact are now case law.
If you want to have the same hunting rights as the indians have-get your government to grant them to you.

Everything you've said is true about Indians.
What I have problem with is if they're a sovereign nation, why are they allowed to vote in our elections? I can't vote in theirs.

Native Americans are the only public allowed to trap on public land in New Mexico. So your ancestry and parentage dictate if you are allowed to trap now? Sounds really racist to me, we should take another look at race based hunting and trapping issues now.

There was a thread on this during the legislative session.
Do you use fur for religious ceremonies, practices and other religious activities? We use animals in many ways not just for a profit.
Do you not see that at your view of it's racist that only natives can trap fails to see if there's a trapping issue the natives will be blamed?
I don't want me and other Natives to be blamed when a non native sets an illegal set and gets a dog caught in it? Natives always get blamed even if they aren't the cause.

You guys dont get it.
Indians are sovereign Nations,they make their own laws they do not recognize laws imposed by the colonizers.
They couldnt give a crap what your government allows you to do or doesnt allow you to do.
They have their own government and their own laws and those laws allow them to hunt fish and trap.It is all written in treatys which are nation to nation agreements.These treatys in a lot of cases are ratified by the supreme court.They have been tested and passed the legal tests,and in fact are now case law.
If you want to have the same hunting rights as the indians have-get your government to grant them to you.

This reminds me of a story my dad used to tell. I can't remember whether it was the 60s or 70s but there had been a big Indian uprising against the government I think in the Dakotas and a couple of them got shot. Anyhow a bunch of them came down here and hold up on tribal land down on the river. They had armed guards at all points of entry and walking the perimeter. At that time there were very few deer in this area and a lot of people had spent thier entire life not seeing one but they were making a big effort to reintroduce deer here. My dad saw his first one at the age of 17 and had been in the woods since he could walk. One of the very few places that had a decent population of deer was on the river and he said the Indians that were hold up down there killed deer and piled them in big piles like firewood out by the county road where the law and passersby could see them and then let them rot just to show everyone that they could and to thumb thier noses at the government. He said even after they calmed down and packed up and went home there were still big piles of rotting deer down there. He estimated that they probably killed and piled between 75 and 100 deer that wasted to make a point.

I really believe that was the original reason there were unlimited fishing rights given to them, because they couldn't net or spear like everyone else couldn't. But, because of their race, they wanted special privileges given to them.

Since the netting, spearing, etc started things have slowly backfired for the casinos. I'm told they've been struggling. The casino owners aren't smart enough to realize this fact. When they used casino money to fund their lawsuits to get these rights they claimed were given to them, it set the ball in motion on a downward spiral for the casinos. The number of fishermen has dwindled. Resorts are going broke for lack of income. Casino attendance has dropped significantly. The economy in the area has suffered as well. None of this will ever come back unless the netting and spearing is stopped.

They net in the spring of the year, in the spawning beds, while the fish are spawning. Kind of comparable as the big piles of rotting deer, isn't it?

I kinda doubt that all the buffalo killed at the buffalo jumps were all used.