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Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.
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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346301 09/02/2109:02 PM09/02/2109:02 PM
Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.
Afghans are crazy resourceful . It'd be a mistake to.underestimate them in this regard.
Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346302 09/02/2109:05 PM09/02/2109:05 PM
they are actually incredibly resourceful at making things run , remember they don't need to be safe or as fit as we would require them to be.
it all should have been a smoldering pile of useless
ever seen the videos of them fixing a broke axle on an old truck just across the boarder in Pakistan they will pull it out , weld it , grind it brace it up and put it all back together with some very crude mostly tools they built.
when they started recovering AKs in the early 2000s they realized they were pieced together from mostly 1950s Russian guns and they were a mix of parts they have all the time in the world to sit and fit them together and hammer out parts
don't dismiss them as idiots in a desert , every one else has , has underestimated them and they are still there.
that's how we ended up in this mess
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346309 09/02/2109:14 PM09/02/2109:14 PM
They just had a big parade of our vehicles going down the road and have been cruising Kabul with a bunch of them. They reported making about 25 inoperable out of thousands but I’m sure a lot are junkers they are sporting a lot of gear they got for free.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346311 09/02/2109:19 PM09/02/2109:19 PM
My grandfather had a 5th grade education and was a very successful business man. He was probably the best mechanic/engineer I ever knew. He could and would fix, design, and build about everything he needed out of what he had laying around. I bet he could make some pretty useful stuff out of a military junk yard.
Not every afghan is smart or resourceful but it only takes a few to get the dumb ones armed and ready.
Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346316 09/02/2109:22 PM09/02/2109:22 PM
They can copy almost any firearm or edged weapon ever made and have been for centuries. They may lack heavy industry but not brains.
Yep amazing what they can make seen a special a guy in the Pakistan tribal region made a AK by hand then walked out into the street to test it, loading ammo was holding a bunch of primed brass and tossing powder over the brass openings.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Trap Setter]
#7346341 09/02/2109:59 PM09/02/2109:59 PM
My grandfather had a 5th grade education and was a very successful business man. He was probably the best mechanic/engineer I ever knew. He could and would fix, design, and build about everything he needed out of what he had laying around. I bet he could make some pretty useful stuff out of a military junk yard.
Not every afghan is smart or resourceful but it only takes a few to get the dumb ones armed and ready.
my grandfather dropped out after the 8th grade
He was one of the best stone masons around , if you wanted a massive fireplace and chimney for your million or multi million dollar house he was the go to guy in SE Wisconsin
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346346 09/02/2110:03 PM09/02/2110:03 PM
I'm seeing this BS being reported all over. Frankly I don't give a tinkers dam if it was 1862 Springfield muskets that stuff is stamped Property of the United States and I'll be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) if I'm okay with just handing it over to a bunch of sodomite ragheads.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346375 09/02/2110:28 PM09/02/2110:28 PM
Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.
Just curious... did your buddy's son vote for Biden?
The vehicles the US military left behind (a handful) when they evacuated the other day were disabled, but not destroyed. The $302 Billion dollars worth of vehicles the Afghan army left behind, on the other hand, were fully operational.
Your comment about the 6th grade education is dumb. My grandfather never completed the 8th grade but I never saw anything he couldn't fix... be it a car, tractor, snowmobile, atv, boat, golf cart, house, washing machine, stove, etc. etc. etc. In fact, I'd bet money that there's more people out there without a HS diploma that can fix vehicles, than there are ones with a college degree!
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: logger coffey]
#7346376 09/02/2110:29 PM09/02/2110:29 PM
Im sure all replacement parts will be shipped when needed, at our expense of coarse.
If you have thousands of the same vehicles you already have replacement parts for a long time ahead. Any backyard mechanic can swap parts out many replacement parts are most likely made in China already.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346387 09/02/2110:41 PM09/02/2110:41 PM
My son in law was deployed there from 2009 through 2011. The Army outfit he was assigned to had a hazardous job….they were responsible for damaged and inoperable US equipment in the field. The way he explained it to me, say there was a damaged Humvee, they had four options….fix it, strip it, tow it, or blow it up. ( Me, I would have always opted to blow everything up ). You see, the problem was, that the bad guys knew that folks would be coming back to that Humvee. Many times, they would be booby trapped, or an ambush would be laid. Either way, you’re going into a hornet’s nest. He made the CBS Evening News in 2010, laying under a tow truck while returning fire at the Taliban who camped out to wait for them.
He said the enemy were very adept at improvising repairs, and didn’t waste anything that they could repurpose.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
#7346411 09/02/2111:07 PM09/02/2111:07 PM