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About the vehicles left behind in the middle east #7346297
09/02/21 08:57 PM
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Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346301
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.



Afghans are crazy resourceful . It'd be a mistake to.underestimate them in this regard.


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346302
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I'll bet they aren't just gonna shrug and walk away because they are currently inoperable.

Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346305
09/02/21 09:07 PM
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So they can make thousands of IEDs with just about anything that will go boom, but can't fix a truck?

Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346307
09/02/21 09:08 PM
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they are already driving a bunch around

they are actually incredibly resourceful at making things run , remember they don't need to be safe or as fit as we would require them to be.

it all should have been a smoldering pile of useless

ever seen the videos of them fixing a broke axle on an old truck just across the boarder in Pakistan they will pull it out , weld it , grind it brace it up and put it all back together with some very crude mostly tools they built.

when they started recovering AKs in the early 2000s they realized they were pieced together from mostly 1950s Russian guns and they were a mix of parts they have all the time in the world to sit and fit them together and hammer out parts

don't dismiss them as idiots in a desert , every one else has , has underestimated them and they are still there.

that's how we ended up in this mess


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346309
09/02/21 09:14 PM
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They just had a big parade of our vehicles going down the road and have been cruising Kabul with a bunch of them. They reported making about 25 inoperable out of thousands but I’m sure a lot are junkers they are sporting a lot of gear they got for free.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346311
09/02/21 09:19 PM
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they do this just over the boarder

and we left them tools also , they just don't tell you that.





America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346312
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My grandfather had a 5th grade education and was a very successful business man. He was probably the best mechanic/engineer I ever knew. He could and would fix, design, and build about everything he needed out of what he had laying around. I bet he could make some pretty useful stuff out of a military junk yard.

Not every afghan is smart or resourceful but it only takes a few to get the dumb ones armed and ready.


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346316
09/02/21 09:22 PM
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They can copy almost any firearm or edged weapon ever made and have been for centuries. They may lack heavy industry but not brains.


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346319
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small emp would fix things till china can make some more chips

Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: warrior] #7346332
09/02/21 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
They can copy almost any firearm or edged weapon ever made and have been for centuries. They may lack heavy industry but not brains.



Yep amazing what they can make seen a special a guy in the Pakistan tribal region made a AK by hand then walked out into the street to test it, loading ammo was holding a bunch of primed brass and tossing powder over the brass openings.


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Trap Setter] #7346341
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Originally Posted by Trap Setter
My grandfather had a 5th grade education and was a very successful business man. He was probably the best mechanic/engineer I ever knew. He could and would fix, design, and build about everything he needed out of what he had laying around. I bet he could make some pretty useful stuff out of a military junk yard.

Not every afghan is smart or resourceful but it only takes a few to get the dumb ones armed and ready.


my grandfather dropped out after the 8th grade

He was one of the best stone masons around , if you wanted a massive fireplace and chimney for your million or multi million dollar house he was the go to guy in SE Wisconsin


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346346
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Im sure all replacement parts will be shipped when needed, at our expense of coarse.

Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346370
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I'm seeing this BS being reported all over. Frankly I don't give a tinkers dam if it was 1862 Springfield muskets that stuff is stamped Property of the United States and I'll be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) if I'm okay with just handing it over to a bunch of sodomite ragheads.


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346375
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
Guy at work has a son that just returned from the sandbox. Many of those vehicles are waiting for parts in a big junk yard basically and inoperable. The Taliban is not the danger. They have basically 6th grade level educations and can't fix them. The issue is that someone will come along later and be able to repair and claim many of them. Not my words. Words from someone that was over there.


Just curious... did your buddy's son vote for Biden?

The vehicles the US military left behind (a handful) when they evacuated the other day were disabled, but not destroyed. The $302 Billion dollars worth of vehicles the Afghan army left behind, on the other hand, were fully operational.

Your comment about the 6th grade education is dumb. My grandfather never completed the 8th grade but I never saw anything he couldn't fix... be it a car, tractor, snowmobile, atv, boat, golf cart, house, washing machine, stove, etc. etc. etc. In fact, I'd bet money that there's more people out there without a HS diploma that can fix vehicles, than there are ones with a college degree!


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: logger coffey] #7346376
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Originally Posted by logger coffey
Im sure all replacement parts will be shipped when needed, at our expense of coarse.



If you have thousands of the same vehicles you already have replacement parts for a long time ahead. Any backyard mechanic can swap parts out many replacement parts are most likely made in China already.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
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It's like those Cuban's that still drive all those 50's model cars around with no Auto Zone. Where there's a will, there's a way!

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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346397
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My son in law was deployed there from 2009 through 2011. The Army outfit he was assigned to had a hazardous job….they were responsible for damaged and inoperable US equipment in the field. The way he explained it to me, say there was a damaged Humvee, they had four options….fix it, strip it, tow it, or blow it up. ( Me, I would have always opted to blow everything up ). You see, the problem was, that the bad guys knew that folks would be coming back to that Humvee. Many times, they would be booby trapped, or an ambush would be laid. Either way, you’re going into a hornet’s nest. He made the CBS Evening News in 2010, laying under a tow truck while returning fire at the Taliban who camped out to wait for them.



He said the enemy were very adept at improvising repairs, and didn’t waste anything that they could repurpose.

Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346411
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Does anyone know if the military Dogs got on the plane home ?


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Re: About the vehicles left behind in the middle east [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7346412
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this is all very disconcerting.


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