I wonder how you phase it out? I would waive my claim if they would allow me to keep 75% that I now pay in. I wonder if the gov would take that deal?

Welcome to the Hotel California WIMarshRAT;

Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said "We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"
And in the master's chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can't kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like,
But you can never leave! "

There is an easy way to report. Google your states OIG hotline or SSI fraud hotline.

If you want to know more about the Fraud Incentive Program, call 1-855-MI FRAUD (643-7283) or report online.

There are many potential ways to extend the life of the program for SSI, increase the tax rate, increase the cap, increase the age for partial, full or max, decrease the stipend payments etc. That is an easier fix then Medicare which is tied to health care which has been rising far faster in costs then the general cost of living. It will take strong political will for politicians to work out solutions that will either increase the life of the program of set a course for ending the program. The baby boomers are not quite half way through their retirements. From 1946-1964 we have persons who are 74 down to 56. With roughly 60 million in that age group there will be a lot of retirement in the next decade. Many will find part time work or several will work until they are older, especially with the labor shortage we have currently and that won't end soon even with all the extra payments. Consumer driven economies do not create near the wealth and GDP as production economies do. Consumer driven economies distribute wealth more unevenly as well, along with creating trade deficits and high levels of personal and public debt as we have learned that living beyond our means has not seen a wake up call to this date. We can plan how to restructure or we can just wait until we are way over our head with few options.

Bryce

We are already in over our heads.

I'm all for any fix that doesn't punish future generations.

That only leaves one.

We can also redirect money, crooks in Washington do it all the time. Fund Social Security and clip spending somewhere else.

With all the "help wanted" signs in businesses across this land politicians are no doubt already considering ways to get grandma and grandpa off the couch and away from their cannabis get-a-way weekends, and their TicToc tournaments and video games and back to work.

I've been hearing the same gloom and doom bullcrap about SS running out of money for about fifty years now.

Listed below from ssa.gov is an article of what it takes for non citizens to be eligible to collect SSI benefits.

https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/spotlights/spot-non-citizens.htm

That is why when they come in they say. We are escaping prosecution. Pretty easy for them to receive benefits. Come to any large city in the USA. Go and sit at the Job and family services or Social Security office. And look who is sitting there. Sure not seniors

Start at age 63. Cut off all benefits. Then anyone under that age re apply. A good start. Anyone 18 and older require them to have employment. The USA drafted 18 yr olds up to Vietnam to go fight. Surely working a job to be self sufficient is a good thing. Right!!!!

Last census. 18 yrs of age to 44. Make up 36.5 percent of the US population. 45 yrs of age to 64 yrs of age make up 26.4 percent of the population. Total 62.9 percent is working. 31 percent left over. So to many programs for non workers collecting. Figures don’t lie. But liars figure

Your always going to be responsible for the irresponsible people in our society if you like it or not and people use that to live on their whole life knowing they can work the system to their advantage. Some people feel they won the lottery by getting on disability and will never have to work again.

What it takes to qualify for SS compared to what you can get out of it is enormous it needs to be revamped to be self paying again.

And it would have except for some "fixes" enacted. Of course, those "fixes" punished future generations. Like raising the tax rates and increasing the full retirement age. They also changed the way inflation was calculated which in effect lowered COLA increases.

Jerry, at the rate we are going the government will be unable to borrow or print money. It's going to make people responsible real quick like.

If the cost of living rate has been going up why would the SS tax rate not go along with it then? If the money runs out who’s the real loser then the ones that paid in for all those years or the ones that paid in less dollar wise?

You have old folks eating cat food not enough being paid in and not enough being paid out you yourself said a solution is to increase the tax rate, fix it at both ends then.

My thing is they keep saying it will fail but who is doing anything about it then, is that not exactly what we send people to DC to do just that!

Why should the tax rate go up?

Ideally, the economy should grow, thus increasing tax revenue. If a program has to continue raising tax rates to self sustain the logical conclusion is eventually the tax rate will be 100 percent.

If the money runs out the "real loser" will be those who are drawing.

If taxes or debt creation is used as a fix the loser will be the younger generations.

If the money runs out before I retire, then I lose out on the social security taken from every paycheck I earned, won't I be a "real loser" too? I trap beaver, maybe I should tell my Doc I am ready, get my lawyer going and file for disability. I have a quad to ride, to haul my gear, prefer to walk but why? I prefer to work and be productive too, but why? What reward is there for the schmuck that works for what will be 50 years soon? The "real winners" are the one milking the system here and now.

Ya’ll worry too much. The “powers that be” have already provided us the answer. The Great Reset. We’ll all receive UBI and live happily together as one.

We’re almost there. We just have to finish destroying the US dollar, capitalism, free enterprise, and freedom, but we’re getting there.