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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: warrior] #7350760
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Originally Posted by warrior
143 years worth of records vs how many thousands of years is statistically insignificant.


how is your measurement accuracy from say...2300 years ago?

Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350765
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Charlie needs to quit watchin TV. That's where all that misinformation comes from!


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: white marlin] #7350767
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Originally Posted by warrior
143 years worth of records vs how many thousands of years is statistically insignificant.


how is your measurement accuracy from say...2300 years ago?


I don't have any records, lol.


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: charles] #7350774
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Originally Posted by charles
Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.

I wish it wasn't so.


I respectfully disagree. No they aren’t more numerous today. You are taking the mainstream media propaganda hook line and sinker. Homes and roads have always been destroyed. There are just 3-10 times more now than 50 years ago


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: SNIPERBBB] #7350776
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Originally Posted by SNIPERB🦝
Originally Posted by charles
Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.

I wish it wasn't so.



The foolish man builds his house on sand...we have a lot of fools along the Gulf and eastern seaboard.

Joe Bastardi is a good follow on Twitter if you have it and also watch his Saturday Summary on weatherbell.com. He goes through a lot of history of storms and weather...which is why himself and the weatherbell team forecasts are more accurate then most because they actually pay attention to history and know what it means.


Sniper have you read his books? They are good


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Pawnee] #7350779
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Originally Posted by Pawnee


I respectfully disagree. No they aren’t more numerous today. You are taking the mainstream media propaganda hook line and sinker. Homes and roads have always been destroyed. There are just 3-10 times more now than 50 years ago



And people are putting them in really dumb places. Around here, you cant build a building inside the 100 year floodplain without building the area up. In hurricane areas people are building in spots that get hit ever 10-20 years.

Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350787
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Think maybe I was all wrong. Liberals caused the weather changes. There is no science behind it. Masks, vaccines, voter fraud, and Arabs, and Chinese, all came together in the last year and now we have low fur prices and bad storms.

Y'all knew that?

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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350790
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what weather changes? noaa says the increase is not distinguishable from "zero"...

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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350794
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Creepy joe and the dems say they will fix it all. All you have to do is dramatically lower your standard of living and pay a lot more in taxes. Obey, peasants.

Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350798
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Kansas was covered with about a mile deep ice sheet at one time. I guess the climate is changing!


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350814
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That rambling idiot is supposedly the leader of the free world. God help us.

Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350833
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If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.

If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.

Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?

Mike


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Mike in A-town] #7350915
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.

If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.

Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?

Mike


Perfect. I wish for the days of logical and truth based debate. It no longer exists. Just google something that leans conservative and then do the same on Duck Duck Go my way of thinking and many of yours is under full assault

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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Mike in A-town] #7350925
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
If you put one person in a mile section of pasture, there is a chance they will eventually be struck by lightning.

If you put 1000 people in a mile section of pasture, what are the chances at least one will eventually be struck by lightning? I'm betting it's 1000x greater, at the very least.

Are the storms more violent and more numerous? Or is the population in their path larger and less savvy about where to live?

Mike



I would disagree with you Mike even though I agree with your point that much of the damage and destruction is caused by lousy zoning and denser populations.
But in your example above I think that the probability of lightning striking a given square mile is not at all dependent on how many people are on that square mile. In other words.........lightning may strike that square mile once a year no matter how many people are on it. What IS valid is that any lightning strike may injure more people when it does strike...but the chances, odds, probability of a strike, is not a thousand times greater


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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7350971
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I am very grateful to have worked in the AG sector where research and science have worked diligently to improve yields and quality with the climate changes that we are experiencing. While the promotors and naysayers finger point, blame and do little but politicize nature's responses we have created genetics that deals with the hands that Mother Nature deals out. We now have corn that can ripen in areas almost 200 miles north of the main corn belt which was not the case 40 years ago. We have developed corn varieties that know how to suspend growth and don't try to pollinate during drought or stress and when the stress is relieved the plant produces a respectable yield. This also allows for corn to be grown in areas that were far to dry for corn 20 years ago. We have developed crops or genetics that can produce 25% more yield with the same or less water then 30 years ago.
We have alfalfa that has reduced lignin that allows longer durations between cuttings and still maintains high quality, saving water, fuel, time and money. We have created plants that thwart disease and insects through genetics and thus much less toxic chemicals are applied to plants and the soil, saving stress, water and resources. Who knows where these changes are headed but there are already many test plots being planted that are working to produce the next needed strains to cope with the conditions that are out there.

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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: Cedar Hacker] #7351046
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I've lived on the south shore of Long Island for 68 years, and lived through a bunch of hurricanes, while it's true by the time they get here they usually are not cat 3's anymore, we've had some doozies!
I don't see anymore then the avg. amount per year, or any stronger than average, but.... over development exposes more infrastructure to the damage that does occur, making it look like the sky is falling.
Plus.. every weather service, weatherman, and talking head, hypes the supposed danger and tries to make every storm the storm of the century...

The biggest manmade affect of climate "change" is the municipalities, zoning, and the fools that build in historical flood areas and storm impact zones...

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Real science by any legit definition flew the coup a long time ago.
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Re: Climate Change Lies [Re: charles] #7351067
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Originally Posted by charles
Hurricanes today have become more numerous and more severe, not to say that there were never severe or numerous hurricanes in the past. You can take this information to the bank. I lived on an NC barrier island for 15 years and before that served in the Coast Guard on the Outer Banks for 27 years. Sea Level is getting higher, the land is moving and eroding, forests are being killed by saltwater, homes and highways are being washed away, and inlets are filling and moving. Building codes are far more strenuous than ever before, yet storms continue to destroy property. These changes have not been subtle, but the changes are accelerating dramatically. Severe storms are occurring every year now instead of once per decade as in my childhood. I will be 75 next month so I've seen a few hurricanes in NC. I expect the same conditions have been experienced along the Texas Gulf Coast.

I wish it wasn't so.


Fortunately we don't have to depend on individual memories and perceptions to determine if hurricanes are more numerous and severe. There are actual weather records that dispel this widely held myth. The more it gets repeated by the likes of Joe Biden or John Kerry the more people tend to believe it, but repeating something over and over does not make it true.

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X2^. Wishing things to be true to fit a narrative is all the rage ya know.


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