Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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If this thread is inappropriate, just axe it bossman.
I see where china's is sending aid to the Taliban in their search of getting all of the untapped resources in that land. What your view of the outcome?
If we go back, it will be twice as hard. Taliban has complete control and now china is friends with them.
Your views? I guess we can expect more attacks on our soil now? Man did we screw up by leaving thanks to Joe.
This is a humanitarian disaster! It's not just Joe you have to thank. Mainly you should thank his predecessor's agreement on behalf of the US to depart regardless of whether the required "negations" left the Taliban in charge. How the agreement was performed by the US is of course Biden's responsibility. The distinction is important. Jim
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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Once again TDS on display. Just such a scholarly man as yourself surely is aware that you are once again spewing only half-truths. Agreed that Trump did indeed set up a withdrawal plan, but the point you and others of your ilk fail to mention us that there were many conditions which were to be met before the withdrawal would happen. Funny how that part is seemingly always left out conveniently by “your” side. Carry on now, just trying to keep the information factual. sorry ‘bout that James
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
[Re: BuckMink]
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09/13/21 06:06 PM
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That was Biden's doing, yes, concrete man.
Buck mink asked, "What [is] your view of the outcome?" and expressed dislike of the fact the Taliban are now in charge and they're making friends with China. These outcomes were the result of Trump's agreement.
Jim
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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That was Biden's doing, yes, concrete man.
Buck mink asked, "What [is] your view of the outcome?" and expressed dislike of the fact the Taliban are now in charge and they're making friends with China. These outcomes were the result of Trump's agreement.
Jim You sound like you think we should've stayed instead of Trumps idea of leaving?
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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Once again TDS on display. Just such a scholarly man as yourself surely is aware that you are once again spewing only half-truths. Agreed that Trump did indeed set up a withdrawal plan, but the point you and others of your ilk fail to mention us that there were many conditions which were to be met before the withdrawal would happen. Funny how that part is seemingly always left out conveniently by “your” side. Carry on now, just trying to keep the information factual. sorry ‘bout that James To be accurate on your facts, please give the many "conditions" the Taliban were required to perform. The only two I can recall are that the Taliban would not allow Afghanistan to be used by al Queda or other groups to threaten the security of the US or its partners, and that the Taliban would engage in "talks and negotiations" with the elected government of Afghanistan, which wasn't consulted by the US before making the agreement. The agreement didn't even require the Taliban to hold negotiations in good faith. Perhaps you recall or can find more "conditions." By the way, the agreement contains no actual conditions, just terms the parties agreed to perform. The difference is not semantic. The US agreed to release 5,000 Taliban terrorists (as defined by US government and law), and performed that term of the agreement. (Where was the outrage then?) The Taliban then conducted "negotiations" and satisfied their promises under the agreement. All that remained was the US promise to withdraw. The mismanagement of the withdrawal is Biden's responsibility, and he ought to pay for it next election, if the GOP offers a reasonable candidate. Jim
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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That was Biden's doing, yes, concrete man.
Buck mink asked, "What [is] your view of the outcome?" and expressed dislike of the fact the Taliban are now in charge and they're making friends with China. These outcomes were the result of Trump's agreement.
Jim You sound like you think we should've stayed instead of Trumps idea of leaving? I think during the Trump term we should have escalated our pounding of the Taliban, EVEN IF WE HAD TO FOLLOW THEM INTO PAKISTAN, until we exterminated them or until they agreed to arbitration that left them only one of several viable political parties in Afghanistan. Don't know if it would have worked, but the outcome could not possibly have been worse than what we have now. I blame Obama for not making a genuine effort to do the above during his eight years. Thanks for the civil question, btw. Jim
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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If the Afghans had elected the Taliban, so be it.
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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09/13/21 06:51 PM
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If this thread is inappropriate, just axe it bossman.
I see where china's is sending aid to the Taliban in their search of getting all of the untapped resources in that land. What your view of the outcome?
If we go back, it will be twice as hard. Taliban has complete control and now china is friends with them.
Your views? I guess we can expect more attacks on our soil now? Man did we screw up by leaving thanks to Joe.
This is a humanitarian disaster! It's not just Joe you have to thank. Mainly you should thank his predecessor's agreement on behalf of the US to depart regardless of whether the required "negations" left the Taliban in charge. How the agreement was performed by the US is of course Biden's responsibility. The distinction is important. Jim All I hear from the words is the voice of Charlie Brown's teacher ....wa wa wa......wa wa. Wa wa wa.
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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If this thread is inappropriate, just axe it bossman.
I see where china's is sending aid to the Taliban in their search of getting all of the untapped resources in that land. What your view of the outcome?
If we go back, it will be twice as hard. Taliban has complete control and now china is friends with them.
Your views? I guess we can expect more attacks on our soil now? Man did we screw up by leaving thanks to Joe.
This is a humanitarian disaster! It's not just Joe you have to thank. Mainly you should thank his predecessor's agreement on behalf of the US to depart regardless of whether the required "negations" left the Taliban in charge. How the agreement was performed by the US is of course Biden's responsibility. The distinction is important. Jim A show of hands of those shocked that this poster is number two on this thread? Another show of hands of those shocked this Joe Biden** supporter blamed Trump right away?
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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09/13/21 07:10 PM
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Once again TDS on display. Just such a scholarly man as yourself surely is aware that you are once again spewing only half-truths. Agreed that Trump did indeed set up a withdrawal plan, but the point you and others of your ilk fail to mention us that there were many conditions which were to be met before the withdrawal would happen. Funny how that part is seemingly always left out conveniently by “your” side. Carry on now, just trying to keep the information factual. sorry ‘bout that James To be accurate on your facts, please give the many "conditions" the Taliban were required to perform. The only two I can recall are that the Taliban would not allow Afghanistan to be used by al Queda or other groups to threaten the security of the US or its partners, and that the Taliban would engage in "talks and negotiations" with the elected government of Afghanistan, which wasn't consulted by the US before making the agreement. The agreement didn't even require the Taliban to hold negotiations in good faith. Perhaps you recall or can find more "conditions." By the way, the agreement contains no actual conditions, just terms the parties agreed to perform. The difference is not semantic. The US agreed to release 5,000 Taliban terrorists (as defined by US government and law), and performed that term of the agreement. (Where was the outrage then?) The Taliban then conducted "negotiations" and satisfied their promises under the agreement. All that remained was the US promise to withdraw. The mismanagement of the withdrawal is Biden's responsibility, and he ought to pay for it next election, if the GOP offers a reasonable candidate. Jim Should the GOP candidate simply have to have a pulse? I heard that somewhere before....
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Re: China's grubby hands in Afghanistan
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I don't think a puppet govt would've lasted any longer with them gone. Too many countries got bogged down in the same land with the same results.
You can't kill an ideoligy. Which puppet government? Afghanistan's or Americas?
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