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MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION #7354561
09/13/21 10:26 AM
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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354668
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I was there, good presentation by Guy, very smart and social man. I really like the idea of the wild fur forever idea that they r working on. Iíve been saying for years this is the angle we need to take about getting our message across about furs, trapping, and conservation. Capitalize on the current times where locally harvested, natural, and green is the popular thing right now! We have to try to educate those against us and explain the hypocrisy in many of their statements. I also believe to get other groups to see things from our perspective and support fur and what we do, we as trappers need to work on our image. I love trapping and our way of life and it kills me when I see comments online or hear people say things like ďkill them allĒ or ďsmoke a pack a dayĒ What a terrible image that gives us to an outsider, I hate being lumped in with trashy ppl like that and it makes it harder for us to defend our sport. Whenever I am asked to defend our sport I like to point out success stories, like the Wisconsin Bobcat. Trappers working with the DNR (submitting skulls and reproductive organs for testing and research) the bobcat is now found in every county of the state! I also like to tell outsiders that u canít look at the life of that one particular animal, u have to see the big picture. Itís us trappers who r out there monitoring the animals no one else cares about, I want them on the landscape more than anyone else. Do u think some urban cat lady cares more about furbearers than I do? Not a chance! Itís those furbearers out there that provide me with the most rewarding hobby there is! Itís my tag and licenses money and conservation practices that allow them to be there cause no one else cares about them the way we do (or should) so if ur one of those ďkill them all guysĒ think about itÖ do u really want to kill them all and not be able to trap or pass down the tradition? Put ur macho man persona aside and Be educated, be smart, and realize itís a stupid thing to say and hurts the image of our sport.

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354671
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You calling it a sport in your big defense of trapping is destroying my image. Of course Groeny wants you to consider trapping a sport. Only way he can get product.


Who is John Galt?
Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Dirt] #7354679
09/13/21 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
You calling it a sport in your big defense of trapping is destroying my image. Of course Groeny wants you to consider trapping a sport. Only way he can get product.

Dirt,
Dont be a Groeny hater. You can ship to him like you did to NAFA.


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354681
09/13/21 02:37 PM
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I'll be selling to groney this year.


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354685
09/13/21 02:39 PM
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My fur will be on the FHA March sale.
I would try groeny but he doesnt buy in Ontario.
We dont have what he wants-no coon or coyote here.

Last edited by Boco; 09/13/21 02:41 PM.
Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7354688
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Dirt
You calling it a sport in your big defense of trapping is destroying my image. Of course Groeny wants you to consider trapping a sport. Only way he can get product.

Dirt,
Dont be a Groeny hater. You can ship to him like you did to NAFA.


So when Groeny told LL to trap for " the love of the game", what was Groeny expecting? Is that groeny hating? Maybe to a sport trapper it is?

P.S. I think you may be confusing me with the Beav. Used to be the number 1 Groeny basher and number 1 NAFA shill. smile

Last edited by Dirt; 09/13/21 03:00 PM.

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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354709
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So, give me the Cliff Notes version...

What are rat prices going to be like?

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Kre] #7354729
09/13/21 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kre
So, give me the Cliff Notes version...

What are rat prices going to be like?


Kre - I was there and actual $ prices were not given. More general terms like "at or above last year." Rats were to be at or above. WI coyote market took a hit with Canada Goose not buying so expect lower there. White leather coon will still have value in any size.

Like or dislike Mr. Groenewold as a buyer, I appreciate him being at the convention for 2 days and getting on the demo schedule to share his insight on the fur market.

Dave


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354749
09/13/21 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
[quote=Dirt]You calling it a sport in your big defense of trapping is destroying my image. Of course Groeny wants you to consider trapping a sport. Only way he can get product.

Dirt,
Dont be a Groeny hater. You can ship to him like you did to NAFA.



Even you Alaskans are now "sport" trappers.


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354774
09/13/21 05:01 PM
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Not this one.


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Kre] #7354780
09/13/21 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kre
So, give me the Cliff Notes version...

What are rat prices going to be like?

I would bet on around $4.50 average for Wisconsin rats.

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354787
09/13/21 05:10 PM
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Iíll be selling to Barnes Hide and Fur once again.

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354814
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He going have more expense this year with inflation, was say in vid that prices same about, if no go up which I doubt soon, cost pass onto producer ? A buck less on coon prices ? I think rats well be same

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Alex the dog] #7354940
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Originally Posted by Alex the dog
Originally Posted by Kre
So, give me the Cliff Notes version...

What are rat prices going to be like?


Kre - I was there and actual $ prices were not given. More general terms like "at or above last year." Rats were to be at or above. WI coyote market took a hit with Canada Goose not buying so expect lower there. White leather coon will still have value in any size.

Like or dislike Mr. Groenewold as a buyer, I appreciate him being at the convention for 2 days and getting on the demo schedule to share his insight on the fur market.

Dave


I can bet you all the money In the world that not "ONE" Wis coyote made It to Canada goose. So the Canada Goose bail out should have no effect on WI coyote prices.


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7354962
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A buck less on PA coon only leaves some change LOL.

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7355048
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Kre - I was there and actual $ prices were not given. More general terms like "at or above last year." Rats were to be at or above. WI coyote market took a hit with Canada Goose not buying so expect lower there. White leather coon will still have value in any size.

Like or dislike Mr. Groenewold as a buyer, I appreciate him being at the convention for 2 days and getting on the demo schedule to share his insight on the fur market.

Dave[/quote]

I can bet you all the money In the world that not "ONE" Wis coyote made It to Canada goose. So the Canada Goose bail out should have no effect on WI coyote prices.
[/quote]....true but the coyotes the goose bought have to go somewhere ,now they will go to the Wi buyers cheaper that will drive the prices of wi coyote down to...unfortunately $hit runs downhill

Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Boco] #7355086
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Originally Posted by Boco
My fur will be on the FHA March sale.
I would try groeny but he doesnt buy in Ontario.
We dont have what he wants-no coon or coyote here.

Iím guessing Groenwold might be the only coon buyer at FHA. As far as other species he probably buys a majority of them as well. He is set up in China like no one else. Rats because you can ship them into China would be an exception and super select type beaver, cats and coyotes probably has a few other buyers. But for most items he is about the only game in town. Even otter heís been buying large amounts.

Last edited by blackhammer; 09/13/21 09:50 PM.

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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: Dirt] #7355097
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Originally Posted by Dirt


So when Groeny told LL to trap for " the love of the game", what was Groeny expecting? Is that groeny hating? Maybe to a sport trapper it is?

P.S. I think you may be confusing me with the Beav. Used to be the number 1 Groeny basher and number 1 NAFA shill. smile[/quote]

I really do like Gary G. He is a good man. He is also a business man and I cannot hold that against him. As for trapping for sport I have never done that. If I cannot make money I will not kill anything for fun. You fuel the antis with such talk and I will have nothing to do with that. It is a commercial venture to me. I do not kill for fun. LLL


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Re: MARKET TALK @ THE WTA CONVENTION [Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD] #7355120
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Good post LL.


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