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Found a flinchlock muzzleloader #7355034
09/13/21 09:04 PM
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Found a flintlock muzzleloader maybe a month ago in the middle of the woods. Traditions deer hunter.. Seemingly left from when middle of winter.. Still loaded just leaning against a tree..

So what I did. PB blaster down the barrel. Then 50 cal wire brush. Water douched the barrel a couple times. The PB blaster again and gun oil everywhere until I had a little more time...

Month later. Now.. Tear the gun completely apart and it all came apart fairly easy for as rusted as it is..

Seems to be a ball and patch load best I can tell.. Tried a ball puller and can't get ahold of it enough best I can tell...

So my thoughts. Pick out all the powder I can with I wire. Load as much as I can get back into it. Tie a string to the trigger and shoot it from cover..

Any better options from the world of trapperman?

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355040
09/13/21 09:08 PM
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Take the barrel back off, build your air compressor up to max pressure. Find a good blow gun end with a flexible rubber tip. Hold it tight and use air pressure to force the ball out. It’s worked for me in the past. If you can get a ball puller screwed in and have someone slowly pull while you apply air pressure, it might help as well


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355041
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Does it have a breech plug that will allow access from that end?


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355045
09/13/21 09:12 PM
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Let it dry out and then shoot it.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355049
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I just unloaded a friend's percussion gun. He had bought it at an auction over 10 years ago. Ramrod wouldn't go all the way in. Assumed it was still loaded. I sprinkler a little 4F into the hole, put a cap on, held it at my hip and BOOM guns unloaded.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355051
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Try the air compressor. and make a better ball puller. see if u can adapt it to a slide hammer or something with a handle. I dont think traditions had breech plugs. Video while u do it just incase we need to watch it.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355062
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I have unloaded by air compressor and blower. Worked well.


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: Outlaw99] #7355065
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Originally Posted by Outlaw99
Take the barrel back off, build your air compressor up to max pressure. Find a good blow gun end with a flexible rubber tip. Hold it tight and use air pressure to force the ball out. It’s worked for me in the past. If you can get a ball puller screwed in and have someone slowly pull while you apply air pressure, it might help as well


This will work.

I double loaded my flintlock last season. I realized t as soon as I rammed the load home and couldn't reach the loaded indicator line scribed into my ramrod. I removed the vent screw and used my blow gun at about 80psi.

CAUTION: DO NOT HAVE ANYONE PULLING A BALL PULLER OR STANDING IN FRONT OF THE MUZZLE!

Both balls came out with a enough force that one of flew across the shop and them put a heck of a dent in the side of a work bench.


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355068
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I also have Co2 cartridges with nipples that fit my flash hole threads. They work well to if you need to unload in the field and can't fire.


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355071
09/13/21 09:34 PM
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You got it…..just use a small piece of wire and wiggle it in the touch hole…as far as it will go in….then drift some 4F powder in it…lay the butt of the gun in an old tire…run some string on the trigger…lay low and pull. Sounds like 3 Stooges stuff…but it’s quick and easy. Oh…and prime the pan…

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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355076
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co2 discharger

air compressor

a track of the wolf ball puller

pick out the powder maybe even back out the flash channel clean out as much as you can dry and put powder under it very carefully put the flash channel liner back in

zert fitting in the liner threads and grease gun to push it out

drill through it with a brass center and then a bigger screw puller

drill until nearly bore size and then hook and remove

depends what you have start least invasive and work up
air or C02 least invasive

if you can get the liner out to work some powder in and fire remotely , I would be really surprised if that doesn't get it to move it has a little more level of danger , keep it down range the hole time , don't put you head over the liner as your screwing it in , minimal body parts in front of it

get it sparking very well first , and while in a safe direction


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7355085
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I would’ve left where it was. My brother has that same plastic stocked POS and he’s wanted to wrap it around a tree more than once.



Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355089
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No breech plug from behind...

The little bit of powder that come out more looked like fine rust...

Air sounds like a good idea..

Still if I get it unplugged the ol string and hide to shoot it will be the first shot by me..

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355273
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Google "Traditions muzzleloader breachplug." I think it likely your gun has a breachplug but may not look like what you expect. Pulling the breachplug is the safe and sure way to remove the load from the gun.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355295
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The Deerhunter does not have a removable breech plug. It is welded in place and Traditions gives multiple warnings not to remove it.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355319
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Once you get it unloaded do some research on removing the rust inside and out with navel jelly. The muzzleloader fourm has lots of good articles.

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355415
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Blew apart the rubber on my air compressor blower tip

Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355421
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Originally Posted by JEckman
Blew apart the rubber on my air compressor blower tip


was it old and cracked ?

add that to the price of your free rifle


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355585
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Like GreencountyPete said "zert fitting in the liner threads and grease gun to push it out" easy and safe. Also dont stand in front of it once moving you can then use a ball puller but best to grease it all the way out..........jk


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Re: Found a flinchlock muzzleloader [Re: JEckman] #7355610
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Just put some 4F in the touch hole and quit Faahten around


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