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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: Pawnee] #7355923
09/14/21 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Originally Posted by James
I zipped through a few Supreme Court cases on treason. It's not enough to state an intention for there to be "aid and comfort." There has to be an overt act.

In other words, if Milley had actually warned China of an impending US attack, he might be prosecuted for treason.

Decision to prosecute would have to be by the Attorney General. An AG's decision to prosecute is often made on a political basis.

I'd rate the chance of the Biden administration prosecuting this general for treason as mighty slim.

Jim


James Iím not being hateful but stop typing and think about what youíre saying and think about what the man did. It my not fit the definition of treason and maybe no even sedition but itís not right by any American standard


I never said it isn't wrong. I said I don't think it amounts to treason under the US Constitution. I also pointed out that he might be prosecuted under the Espionage Act, if it's not a political decision.

How do you want me to type?

Jim


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355929
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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355962
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And the left keeps saying there is no deep state. Riiiiiiiiight.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355963
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There will never be another Democrat questioned or punished for anything they do.


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: Gary Benson] #7355972
09/14/21 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
There will never be another Democrat questioned or punished for anything they do.


that sums it up nicely.


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: Gary Benson] #7355975
09/14/21 09:42 PM
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Below is a link to an article about Trump appointing Milley. Just another case of the very poor outcomes that came about by the appointments that Trump made. He obviously is not a very good judge of character or capability or do these appointed persons see the error of his ways and work to maintain some normality and sanity to the executive branch?

Bryce

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/6749...ey-chairman-of-the-joint-chiefs-of-staff

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355980
09/14/21 09:48 PM
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For five decades Americans became lazy and allowed the corrupt federal government in the District of Criminals to accrete more and more power. A quick read of the US Constitution reveals that America is first and foremost a federation of independent states. If they want to, the states can (and should) rebuff a great deal of the federal overreach we are seeing. It can easily go to the point of federal agents not being allowed to operate in states or they will be arrested, detained, charged. It just takes governors with guts to implement. It can go so far as individual county sheriffs deputizing a couple thousand local citizens to confront illegal aliens or an invading force, or to take rogue federal agents into custody. Freedom and independence can confront the authoritarianism flowing out of DC right now. Just takes old fashioned American guts.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355985
09/14/21 09:54 PM
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The feds give states alot of $.......$ is king today so do not expect any state to be arresting federal agents anytime soon...


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7355991
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Marty, I know what you are saying here. I also think our political situation is at the breaking point.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: James] #7355994
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Originally Posted by James
I zipped through a few Supreme Court cases on treason. It's not enough to state an intention for there to be "aid and comfort." There has to be an overt act.

In other words, if Milley had actually warned China of an impending US attack, he might be prosecuted for treason.

Decision to prosecute would have to be by the Attorney General. An AG's decision to prosecute is often made on a political basis.

I'd rate the chance of the Biden administration prosecuting this general for treason as mighty slim.

Jim


I hate to say this, but James is right. Talking about or threatening to commit a crime is not the same as actually committing the offense. However, conspiracy or insubordination could be in order. Let's not forget that Milley is subject to the Uniformed Code of Military Justice which is much more stringent than civilian law.

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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356001
09/14/21 10:14 PM
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Milley is subject first to the UCMJ. His illegal insubordination and treason were committed in uniform while on active duty. He exceeded his authority by a long shot to the point of rebellion against the people. Supreme Court, AG have zero to do with this. Itís strictly a court martial. Junior officers can convene it.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356002
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General officers are not immune from courts martial. There have been examples in the past, though its got to be pretty political for that bridge to be crossed. I think this fully qualifies though I wonder if there is enough JAG officers with the cajones to do it.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356003
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Can we all agree that we would like to see milley severely punished.

Keith

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: PAlltheway] #7356007
09/14/21 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PAlltheway
Marty, I know what you are saying here. I also think our political situation is at the breaking point.


It may be past the point of no return...


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: KeithC] #7356050
09/15/21 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Can we all agree that we would like to see milley severely punished.

Keith

Agree, but I doubt it will ever happen. Right now the liberal media is calling him a hero for doing it.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356052
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Just got another vacation over at FB for suggesting maybe Milley should hang. Uptight folks over there.

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: Rat Masterson] #7356104
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
And the left keeps saying there is no deep state. Riiiiiiiiight.


And no media bias and no election fraud.

They know if they say it often enough "smart" libtards will believe every word.


Eh...wot?

Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356107
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He needs put on trial and if guilty, he needs to spend his life in prison or be hung. However, he is on the DemoRats side so, as usual, nothing will happen and he will get away with it.


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356112
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The part about submit to the authorities is really a VERY hard pill to swallow....


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Re: BREAKING General Milley committed TREASON! [Re: warrior] #7356118
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Wait so the USA was going to attack China? If not what did he do that is punishable? He called his counter part and said hey we are not going to attack you.

If its true that there was no attack, then where is the crime, where even is the moral/ethical failing?

That he felt the need to do it at all is another matter.

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