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Pretty confused by a lot of the comments. It’s SEU Cable folks. That’s the way it’s mainly ran in residential applications, and as far as asking where the ground is. Well I’m not going to go into that.
Thank you, Pasadena. If it were me and in a pinch, I would cover up that sheath with a good garden hose or a split conduit and call it good. I’m sure the conductors and ground are just fine.
Yep, the only thing wrong there is the sheath on the SEU has deteriorated from sun/weather. The neutral is still in tact. The conductors still have their sheathing on. Good gravy, most of the services in the neighborhoods built from the 60’s through the early 80’s have SEU going up the house, bent over( because a weather head is not required) and strip the sheath, twist the neutral and the power company takes it from there.
Re: Electricians: How many volts run through this?
[Re: jbyrd63]
#7356200 09/15/2109:57 AM09/15/2109:57 AM
SEU is an unarmored Style U flat service electrical cable with two-phase conductors and a concentric neutral. SEU typically has an oval shape because of the stranded neutral conductors that wrap around the cable to create an oval shape.
Got 2 electricians coming over for estimates this weekend, and early next week.. Might try to get a 3rd estimate if these seem high.,
Good all you can do at this point. IF and big IF you got the money I'd have ONE 200 amp put in do away with that whole double panel . You may have to if you get it inspected. If a license EL does it and don't want it inspected he's not worth the plastic his license is on .
Re: Electricians: How many volts run through this?
[Re: Canvasback2]
#7356263 09/15/2111:26 AM09/15/2111:26 AM
Conduit is required for mechanical protection of the conductors. Meaning, so the conductors are not damaged by something hitting them. Plastic conduit probably burns as good as siding. We should run a test.
If you are worried about mechanical protection, which you should be near the ground, put some u-guard over the conductors. Not telling you this is code.
Last edited by Dirt; 09/15/2111:46 AM.
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Re: Electricians: How many volts run through this?
[Re: jbyrd63]
#7356296 09/15/2112:21 PM09/15/2112:21 PM
Google why those snake oil fixes went out in the 1970"s THEY ATTRACK LIGHTNING !!!
What? They do not attract lightning. They provide a path of least resistance to ground if the structure is struck. If your philosophy was sound, every cellphone tower, skyscraper, grain silo, barn would be bombarded by lightning strikes.
Re: Electricians: How many volts run through this?
[Re: Canvasback2]
#7356297 09/15/2112:21 PM09/15/2112:21 PM
Canvasback asked how many volts are in those wires so he could decide what wires to replace them with. At that point, we should be stopping him right there because clearly he does not have the qualifications to understand what is going on. I would likewise assume he does not know which codebook his inspector/utility uses, let alone what those codes are, and at that point my advice is always to seek qualified help. If he has a friend who is qualified and willing to guide him through the process and supervise to be sure it is right, he could do the grunt work and save some money. Otherwise he needs an electrician to do it. If the electricians or wanna-be electricians want to do some pecker measuring and show off snippets of their knowledge, that might be fun for a while…. Im just glad to hear that the OP is doing the right thing. A man’s got to know his limitations.
Canvasback asked how many volts are in those wires so he could decide what wires to replace them with. At that point, we should be stopping him right there because clearly he does not have the qualifications to understand what is going on. I would likewise assume he does not know which codebook his inspector/utility uses, let alone what those codes are, and at that point my advice is always to seek qualified help. If he has a friend who is qualified and willing to guide him through the process and supervise to be sure it is right, he could do the grunt work and save some money. Otherwise he needs an electrician to do it. If the electricians or wanna-be electricians want to do some pecker measuring and show off snippets of their knowledge, that might be fun for a while…. Im just glad to hear that the OP is doing the right thing. A man’s got to know his limitations.
So, you read the whole thread, decided to tell the op to do what he has already said that he is going to do and then talk about people measuring their peckers? What is the point of your response?
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Re: Electricians: How many volts run through this?
[Re: Canvasback2]
#7356343 09/15/2101:37 PM09/15/2101:37 PM
Well i didn’t just read the whole thread, I had already posted earlier on the thread, as had others, that he needed an electrician for this one. Then after several people kept giving advice that was going to give him about enough to make him dangerous…
There really is no reason to even answer the initial question beyond “your in over your head”, especially after all that had been said earlier in the thread, because he asked the wrong question for sizing wire.
And yes i have no doubt canvas can learn all of this! After all, it is only a small part of rocket science. I would say 6 months of on the job training could get an average person to the point where you would be ready to do this job. Maybe less if one has unusually high ability in the trades. Maybe a month if all you are doing is service installations every day if you are starting from scratch and asking questions.
I did not intend to offend anyone. But its true, I got a little snarky. I wanted to drive home the points that while we can tell him snippets, he needs more than that, and an electrical service is not something to learn ones way through. Heck i do some pecker measuring myself sometimes, and it can be fun for a while. Just want to be sure our fellow trappers don’t get fried, and I think that has been accomplished. I’m done now and probably should have been a couple posts ago.