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Do you believe in the Bible? Do you believe that God is the same yesterday, today and forever? You do know you are making the same point that others made thousands of years ago - accusing them of being drunk that is........
Quite frankly, that is none of your business, I don't believe talking
in youngest makes you closer to God, I married into that back
in the 70s , real dang wierd, reminded me of the moonies.
A good friend of mine whose wife reads the bible non stop
believes because of God the earth is the only planet
in the whole universe that has life and it's because
God made it so just here....born again Christian
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356515 09/15/2106:08 PM09/15/2106:08 PM
You know...lot of non believers are asking a lot of ?s here lately. Recon the LORD is dealing with hearts ???
Donnie
I know He is! Since Covid - there has been much fear introduced into our society from satan. People are beginning to think about Biblical prophecy more and just how far we are from taking the mark of the beast. Lives are changing and hearts are softening. The Lord is standing there knocking and waiting patiently for all to answer His call. If only more could truly understand His love for them......It is our responsibility as believers to show others, through love, who Jesus is and what He did for them to have a future with Him.
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356519 09/15/2106:11 PM09/15/2106:11 PM
Buzzard - Good night. I pray the Lord leads you and guides you and may your knowledge of His love for you continue to grow. In no way do I condemn you or look down upon you. I thank you for starting this conversation so others may be stirred in their souls as well.
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356537 09/15/2106:35 PM09/15/2106:35 PM
Interesting for sure, the 144000 you speak of must go forward to the jejova witness folk where they proclaim the same thing. I do find it odd that God chose a people for the promised land and then send the majority to hades after Armageddon. Why does the world hate the Jews if they are not Christian ?
I believe the 144k will be trying to convert all people, from LDS to Muslims to Buddhists to Atheists.
It's not too hard to wrap your head around if you picture God as a father. The entire old Testament is pretty much God giving his wayward children chance after chance after chance to stop stealing, lying, worshipping devils, etc., and the kids stopping their bad behavior for a moment just to turn right back to it. Of course as a father God wants more than anything for them to have a good relationship with him. But just like most human fathers, he knows he can't allow them to just disregard his rules, even though he loves them. Could God force them to obey his rules? Yes, but who would want a love that was forced? He wants his children to come to him of their own free will. After centuries of trying and failing to get them to do that, he sent his Son to die for their sins, so that they could be forgiven and come back to him. And what did the Jews do? Killed him, and refused to believe all the more. So God applied some tough love, and washed his hands of them for the time being, allowing Satan to rule the earth for now. But when he comes back again as Jesus, he will give one last ditch effort to try to save as many of them as he can.
I think people hate Jews for various reasons. For a time many Christians did because they crucified Christ. I think Christians nowadays are much more accepting of them though. And all the country around them hate them because they are not Muslim, the same reason they hate us.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356542 09/15/2106:43 PM09/15/2106:43 PM
"That the Christian Church banned usury for many centuries is not invalidated by reference to the Bible (family planning is not disallowed in the Bible). Nor can usury be defined as the extortionate charging of interest: usury is the charging of any interest. The Vatican ties itself up in complex circumlocutions to divert attention from the fact that it runs capitalist institutions based on the most blatant condoning of usury. The verbal acrobatics testify to the contradictory situation it finds itsef in. Usury - all usury - is banned by Christian doctrine, as it is by Muslim doctrine. In the late Middle Ages the problem of financing the royal exchequer and setting up capitalist institutions in the face of the Christian ban on usury was resolved by allowing Jews to act as bankers. They therefore came to be viewed as pariahs, just as cow hide tanners are pariahs in Hindu society. It was in this way that the Jewish community was able to accrue vast wealth and thereby to bring down on its head the loathing of the Christians. Hence Shylock. This enmity is still the underlying basis of modern anti-Semitism. "
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Who is John Galt?
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356545 09/15/2106:50 PM09/15/2106:50 PM
The Jovies are weird and a cult. The Mormons are weird and a cult. And, love on Israel and the Jews as much as you want so long as it doesn't affect policy or spending in this country--which it unfortunately does.
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356553 09/15/2107:00 PM09/15/2107:00 PM
It is very appalling the things that have been done to others in the name of a religion. Child abuse, polygamic, infidelity, executions of the worst kind possible, and greedy financial motives come to mind. Entire civilizations were stripped of gold and silver, genital mutation is still performed on Arab girls, and greedy evangelist have prayed on gullible followers, non believers or people of other races have been enslaved in the name of religions. My grandmother used to send what little had to an evangelist on Oklahoma, and in Europe, absolution assured that wealthy people could buy favors from the Pope and the Lord. If you ever have a chance to go to Seville, Spain, a visit to the Catholic Church there will reveal enough gold and silver from South America and Mexico to put a dent in world hunger. I imagine the Vatican has their share. Not sure about the Mormon center in Salt Lake City. Just look at the elaborate cathedrals every faith has built for houses of worship.
How can we separate greed and crimes against people from true religion?
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356594 09/15/2108:17 PM09/15/2108:17 PM
All I know is the Jehovahs don't celebrate Halloween because they don't appreciate people showing up at the front door unannounced. Get a good buzz on Buzzy!
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356597 09/15/2108:22 PM09/15/2108:22 PM
I think Christians nowadays are much more accepting of them though.
The entirety of your post was good but no need to waste space by pasting it here. This part probably doesn't go far enough. American Christians and conservatives are the best friend Israel has on the planet but your average Jew, at least the American Jew, doesn't seem to realize it. Why they cast their lot with the left baffles me.
Re: Afternoon Jesus Freaks
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#7356611 09/15/2108:44 PM09/15/2108:44 PM
Jehovahs aint christians-they are still waiting for the messiah to show up.They dont believe Jesus Christ was the messiah.
They believe Jesus and Michael the archangel are one and the same. They aren't waiting for any messiah to show up. They do believe in the end of the world, though.
JW came out of the millerites, the whackadoodles that claimed that on xx day of xxxx Jesus would return so they sold off all their crap and went and sat on a hilltop. When that didn't happen they recalculated and did over a couple times before it all broke up into JW, Seventh Day Adventist, some of the Churches of God.
JW came out of the millerite movement, started as a legitimate search for God and revival that got sidelined into cults of personality.
LDS was invented out of whole cloth laid over a veneer of the Christian Bible by a criminal and con man. There are several texts, book of mormon/pearl of great wisdom/etc that LDS holds as devine inspired word. Most of it is just so much nonsense involving things like holy underwear, multiplicity of gods, God was originally a man and all can become gods of their own worlds. They refuse to advertise most of this playing up the JC part of their facade and don't pull out the deeper "hidden" knowledge until the convert is well and truly brainwashed.
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#7356623 09/15/2108:53 PM09/15/2108:53 PM