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Afternoon Jesus Freaks #7356432
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Question of the day, are Jehovah Witness folk true Cristainans

or just a money making cult ? Their views are much

diffent than the Baptist or even the Catholics, but their God

is the same, is anybody right and is anybody wrong ?

I would love to get into Islam, but my theology is gone,

seems to me that Islam was first kinda formed when

Isaac booted out one of his boys because of inheritance.

I could be wrong, and probably am but it is out there,

just don't know where ?

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I think the real Christians play with snakes, drink poison, and speak in tongues.


Who is John Galt?
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I run over snakes, drink all kinds of poison in limited quantities such as cherry juice (which the pits contain cyanide), and most definitely believe the Word of God to be true and unchanging and am living proof of the Holy Spirit filling to the utmost with evidence of speaking in tongues! I am not ashamed of Christ nor the Holy Spirit and believe in Gods Word - the Bible.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
I think the real Christians play with snakes, drink poison, and speak in tongues.



Considering all the fack around the Cristainan faith,

someone has to be wrong ?? Israel, the chosen people are

predominantly non christian as the word is today.

Who is right and who is wrong ? Today they are putting queers into

pastors of church's, isn't that a gateway to hades, but they are considered

Christian by the church

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I believe the Jehovahs Witnesses have some scriptural based beliefs but many more that are not found in scripture and can not be substantiated.. I do not agree with their beliefs. If they have confessed their sins and repented of them and believe Jesus has forgiven them and He alone is the true son of God sent to redeem them - they stand a pretty good chance. If they believe some of their wackiness.......no.

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homosexuality is still a sin even if they are put into a church

Israel is God's chosen nation - those of us as Christians (gentile) outside that nation are grafted into - you are correct many Jews still await the Messiah but they are still His chosen ones.

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Jehovahs aint christians-they are still waiting for the messiah to show up.They dont believe Jesus Christ was the messiah.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
homosexuality is still a sin even if they are put into a church

Israel is God's chosen nation - those of us as Christians (gentile) outside that nation are grafted into - you are correct many Jews still await the Messiah but they are still His chosen ones.



Thank you , a biased but non biased answer, rare on here anymore.

Soo, are the true Jews, the ones that don't believe in the new testament

going to Hades in your opinion ?

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I don't consider them a money making cult. But, there is too much involvement to get into when it comes to the Watchtower Society. I refuse to refer to them as Jehovah's Witnesses as Watchtower Society was their original handle. They are the most unpatriotic religion in the US refusing to vote, salute the flag, sing the national anthem, or serve in the military.

Abraham gave his birthright to Isaac instead of Ishmael who was his first born son. Ishmael's mother was Hagar. Isaac was the son of Abraham and Sarah.

To make a long story short, the Jews and Muslims got along fine until Mohammad. He convinced the majority of the Muslims that a jinn had appeared to him and told him the Jews lied. Abraham had passed the birthright along to Ishmael, not Isaac. That's when all the trouble began and has continued on to this day.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Do not know much about JW compared to some. except they do read the bible and support their arguments with their interpretation of scripture. but Islam I know a little about after 7 years in the mid east.

1) They read the Quran as history and prophesy. Most Christians do not read the old testament and try to explain away what they do not understand
2) Jesus was a Muslim and a great prophet and will return to fight during Armegedon
3) There is a difference between Suni (Arab, line of Ishmael) and Shite (Persian Iranian, line of King Nebuchadnezzar- Anunnaki): one also believes in resurrection.
4) We (Anglo-Tribe of Dan and Philistine=Cain) are the great Satan: We are not of the blood line of Seth: but of Cain, who committed the first murder (at site of Palmyra Temple of Baal) and was fathered by Satan
5) Our bloodline was cursed by Noah and God
6) That is why we are considered Infidels, non believers
7) ISIS (radical Suni) tried to bring about the end of days by destroying the temples of Baal or Cain, which the world Heritage Fund will rebuild: Palmyra.
8) Presently Russia, India and Iran along with some of the little stans countries are backing the former VP of Afghanistan against the Taliban (China Turkey and Packistan)
9) Mohamed was the true prophet of God
10) The Quran for the most part is can be read on line alot matches pre Abraham old testament
11) Hagar was Egyptian Royalty, Ishmael was first born of Abraham, this is very important to them
12) Cain or Caninities will serve Abraham because of the curse from Moses ( which equates to Anglo establishing the state OF iSREAL)

I think this is the parts you wanted to know about

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Originally Posted by Boco
Jehovahs aint christians-they are still waiting for the messiah to show up.They dont believe Jesus Christ was the messiah.

They believe Jesus and Michael the archangel are one and the same. They aren't waiting for any messiah to show up. They do believe in the end of the world, though.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I don't consider them a money making cult. But, there is too much involvement to get into when it comes to the Watchtower Society. I refuse to refer to them as Jehovah's Witnesses as Watchtower Society was their original handle. They are the most unpatriotic religion in the US refusing to vote, salute the flag, sing the national anthem, or serve in the military.

Abraham gave his birthright to Isaac instead of Ishmael who was his first born son. Ishmael's mother was Hagar. Isaac was the son of Abraham and Sarah.

To make a long story short, the Jews and Muslims got along fine until Mohammad. He convinced the majority of the Muslims that a jinn had appeared to him and told him the Jews lied. Abraham had passed the birthright along to Ishmael, not Isaac. That's when all the trouble began and has continued on to this day.



I knew it was around then sometime, Ismael saw the soup comes to mind

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Any sect that does not consider Jesus the son of God and the only way to salvation and heaven is a falsehood.

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Originally Posted by Tailhunter
Any sect that does not consider Jesus the son of God and the only way to salvation and heaven is a falsehood.



So your saying all of Israel and Orthodox Jews are falsehoods ?

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Boco
Jehovahs aint christians-they are still waiting for the messiah to show up.They dont believe Jesus Christ was the messiah.

They believe Jesus and Michael the archangel are one and the same. They aren't waiting for any messiah to show up. They do believe in the end of the world, though.

The ones around here dont believe in Jesus-they dont even celebrate christmas or easter.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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JW's have a lot of theology that goes against the Bible.

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One time when I was walking through the second floor of a Christian high school, looking for my daughter's classroom, I came upon a remarkable sight. Through the open door, I saw a room packed with people waving their hands and babbling into the air. Each one trying to talk over or through the others, none making any sound I recognized as belonging to an actual modern human language. I concede, though, that most human languages, through our long history, are extinct, and who is to say that no one in that room was channeling a language used by a long-extinct tribe in Siberia circa 25,000 BC?

Someone noticed me standing in the hall, stopped waving one hand, and beckoned me forward.

I turned and almost ran down the hallway. Spooked the heck out of me!

Jim


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"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
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Originally Posted by Buzzard
Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
homosexuality is still a sin even if they are put into a church

Israel is God's chosen nation - those of us as Christians (gentile) outside that nation are grafted into - you are correct many Jews still await the Messiah but they are still His chosen ones.



Thank you , a biased but non biased answer, rare on here anymore.

Soo, are the true Jews, the ones that don't believe in the new testament

going to Hades in your opinion ?


In my opinion yes.... Jesus said so himself. That said many of "God's people" will turn back to him in the end times. Those Jews will go to Heaven.


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Angela, re read your response, two different answers, one yes they will go to hades and one no...which is it ?

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Are JW the same as LDS?


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