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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359897
09/20/21 09:58 AM
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Lots of not working or never worked around here on disability. We’re in the fourth generation now since Lyndon Johnson. Lots of mental and back issues that are hard to define. When I hear the statement that “ My back’s so bad they won’t operate on it” I’m highly suspect there’s nothing to operate on. About all of them say they can’t work but do work carpentry, sawmills or concrete work for cash and hunt, fish and trap, ride ATV)s and bass boats. Sadly, the govt. check has become first option and is way too easily acquired with any sort of excuse. The coon hunt my working buddy went on one night years ago comes to mind. It was right after Obama assumed the throne. The other three were bragging they had just voted themselves a raise in. He got pretty aggravated. Most around here are like that. They are not ashamed a bit to draw a fraudulent check. They have a network amongst themselves sharing knowledge to all get on whatever comes up in the way of government handouts. The ones that really get defensive are the ones that know deep down within themselves they could be working an honest job instead of beating their way through life dishonestly. Instead of being like the man in the wheelchair or with one arm working. Lots of males around here that drop off their wives at work though…..

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359910
09/20/21 10:24 AM
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You nailed it kytrapper, Much of the same here on the west end of the state.


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359913
09/20/21 10:32 AM
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Is there an IRS business code for Crack Dealer? Seems to me it would be hard for a Crack dealer to report his income without getting in trouble for running an illegal business? Seems like Catch 22?


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359919
09/20/21 10:43 AM
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Some of you guys are so predictable. First this is the first I have seen this thread so I didn't read all of it. ONE big thing the reporter included in his stats are the working age males. 16 ! really He started or whom ever did the data including the unemployed males. Not taking into consideration thousands still in high school and then again college. So your beloved college football players fall into the parasite category . Get real , think about the basis of the article.

Another topic to divide and pit the nation against each other. Dems want to keep something stirred up to divert the mess they have and continue to create. We better hope and pray we are still a nation by 2022.

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359931
09/20/21 10:53 AM
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I have not read through all of this so if I'm repeating others, please to excuse....but my take is if somebody has figured out how to basically live off the land, doesn't make enough cash to legally owe taxes, and isn't taking advantage of government assistance; then I say good for you.


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359932
09/20/21 10:58 AM
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A few years ago NE came up with a Marijuana tax stamp even though it's illegal. Then they could add another charge when someone was busted. Lawmakers are earning their keep!

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359936
09/20/21 11:05 AM
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How many of you think your individual tax burden will be less when they “make corporations pay their fair share”?

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359939
09/20/21 11:10 AM
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"IRS Guidance for Thieves, Drug Dealers, and Corrupt Officials

June 9, 2014
Alan Cole

IRS Publication 17, which helps taxpayers determine how to report their income, is extremely detailed. Its section on “Other Income” has some of the most fascinating sorts of income you are obligated to report. Here are three that stand out:

Bribes. If you receive a bribe, include it in your income.

Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Form 1040, line 21, or on Schedule C or Schedule C-EZ (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity.

Stolen property. If you steal property, you must report its fair market value in your income in the year you steal it unless in the same year, you return it to its rightful owner."

"Hey Manuel, how much did I pay Carlos to make that hit on Pablo ?" "I need to know in order to write the expense off on my Schedule C" " I'm going to put it under Other business expenses."

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7359941
09/20/21 11:15 AM
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Two of the Tman disability fraud cases on the same page!

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Blaine County] #7360001
09/20/21 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Two of the Tman disability fraud cases on the same page!


And you feel obligated to pay taxes to support them crazy


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360006
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I'd feel guilty using all the gov't provided services if I didnt pay my dues.
I have no problem with people not paying taxes if they dont drive on the roads or walk on the sidewalks or use municipal water, sewer, garbage pick up,snow removal,police services,healthcare etc.
I dont pay taxes to pay for cheaters,I pay tax for the services I use. Theft is rampant by crooks in all walks of life.
The same ones that dont pay tax may not go out of their way to steal your stuff,but they are the ones who will commit thefts of opportunity.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360012
09/20/21 12:51 PM
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I pay gasoline taxes to use the roads, along with licensing fees and registration fees. That they have mismanaged that money is not my problem.


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360014
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A problem here is workers seem to claim an injury in the fall so they can ride workmans compensation for the winter. I had one employee ride WC for years even took my insurance company to the state Supreme Court. I was sure glad I had insurance! His injury was his own fault didn’t follow my instructions but I still paid in higher premiums.


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Dirt] #7360021
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Two of the Tman disability fraud cases on the same page!


And you feel obligated to pay taxes to support them crazy


I feel obligated to not go to prison for tax evasion.

Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Blaine County] #7360027
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Originally Posted by Dirt


And you feel obligated to pay taxes to support them crazy


I feel obligated to not go to prison for tax evasion.


Have you seen their healthcare plan? Option # 4 Jim. Rob a bank. smile


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360032
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I work harder now then I did when I was getting paid. LOL


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360039
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"One of the more frequent questions I get from people curious about jail medicine is "Who pays for this? And how do you yourself get paid?" Well, correctional medicine certainly has a different payment and reimbursement system than we use for the rest of American medicine. In fact, inmates have a medical system that has more in common with Canada's single-payer model than the U.S.! But I get ahead of myself....

The central fact upon which correctional medical care hinges is this one: Inmates are the only residents of the United States with a constitutional guarantee of medical care. "


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Boco] #7360042
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Originally Posted by Boco
I'd feel guilty using all the gov't provided services if I didnt pay my dues.
I have no problem with people not paying taxes if they dont drive on the roads or walk on the sidewalks or use municipal water, sewer, garbage pick up,snow removal,police services,healthcare etc.
I dont pay taxes to pay for cheaters,I pay tax for the services I use. Theft is rampant by crooks in all walks of life.
The same ones that dont pay tax may not go out of their way to steal your stuff,but they are the ones who will commit thefts of opportunity.


I currently pay my taxes, but if I came across a good, off the books job I wouldn't hesitate to take it! 95% of my driving is done on state or county roads, the upkeep of which is paid for by property, sales and gas taxes. I pay enough in federal gas taxes to cover my occasional drive on an interstate. I don't recall the last time I used a sidewalk, but I don't think federal taxes are building those either. We have septic, and PAY for our water and garbage pickup. No snow removal here. I receive no healthcare. I do like having the county sheriff's around, but don't know if they receive any federal tax dollars?


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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: Dirt] #7360064
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Two of the Tman disability fraud cases on the same page!


And you feel obligated to pay taxes to support them crazy

All made possible by lawyers. Thank you very much.
Now I want to go to prison so I can get free health care and dental! Made possible by the good lawyers of course. Gotta love the lawyers.
I almost feel obligated to make a donation to the National Brotherhood of Lawyers. Anybody have an address?

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Re: 1/3rd of American Men Don't Work. [Re: KeithC] #7360075
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The lawyers didn't make you sign up.


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