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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359859
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Don't worry Danny, as mankind thoroughly washes their hands of God, redefining good and evil, this will be legalized and normalized. (see link below)

Hopefully, Christ will intercede before then.

While you're on your crusade, shining light on evil in the world don't forget to expose Hollywood and the politicians

I think you will find them to be pushing the agenda of perversion, and acting out said perversions far more than the religious types

But that doesn't fit your narrative does it?

Advocate.com: Shang-Chi's Simu Liu: Pedophilia Is 'No Different Than Being Gay'.
https://www.advocate.com/people/2021/9/17/shang-chis-simu-liu-pedophilia-no-different-being-gay

This is the lead actor in Marvel's latest movie "teaching" you right from wrong..

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359860
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Some individual churches focus on the pastor too much and give him too much power, IMO. This kind of structure creates a place for power hunger pastors to take advantage of people. When you have a church where the focus is on God and no one person is taking all the credit for God's work, it fosters humility among the leadership. All men (and women) are capable of falling into these kinds of sins. I think part of the solution is to get back to the basics and quit putting certain leaders on the pedestal as if they were little gods. That's my 2 cents, and worth every penny what you paid for it..


Right now Im having amnesia and dj vu at the same time. I think Ive forgotten this before.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359869
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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359912
09/20/21 10:27 AM
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Why werent you guys circling the wagons when it was priests polygamists? I see now why its covered up so easy


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359920
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Evil and suffering are so pervasive, the stats hardly make us blink.
Christians blink but we don't hold redemption in our hands.
Atheists claim to be tolerant but you're showing us the example of the new tolerant among us who are the most intolerant (see my other post).

I'm not sure why you posted this danny other than to call out evil in the world.
We believers already know about good and evil.

So, rather than chucking, suit up and help.
Thousands will die today in our land.
Most will trigger no headlines for you to post about.
Life is tragic and will find us all.

In it, people tend to blame God or embrace God.
C.S. Lewis said it well; "God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to our conscience, but shouts in our pain."
Believers understand this well.
You seem to vehemently resent others not joining you and yours.
It's a dead end.

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359922
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It is in all walks of lives but some jobs/positions have made it easier to hide the behaviors. The sad part is the way groups like, churches, scouts etc. have covered it up by moving people around, buying the victims off etc.

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359925
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People are people. Doesn't matter if they are baptists, catholics or atheists, This problem is pervasive in all walks of life.

Danny of you are expecting people to be perfect, no matter what their place in life, you are going to be disappointed.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Bear Tracker] #7359927
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
It is in all walks of lives but some jobs/positions have made it easier to hide the behaviors. The sad part is the way groups like, churches, scouts etc. have covered it up by moving people around, buying the victims off etc.


That's not a church... as in the ordained ecclesia of God.
That's people.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: BernieB.] #7359954
09/20/21 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BernieB.
People are people. Doesn't matter if they are baptists, catholics or atheists, This problem is pervasive in all walks of life.

Danny of you are expecting people to be perfect, no matter what their place in life, you are going to be disappointed.


Very true statement.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Mark June] #7359979
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Back now to the original post. It seems preying on children is not primarily the realm of Catholicism or Mormons.

I can't help but wonder if it is their way of dealing with desires they don't want to have. Desires they tell and have been told are a choice. To ashamed of them to ever put a voice to them. So instead they hurt others.


Whatever you say is your truth.

It's always interesting to me to see how these detractors are constantly searching for the negative. They ignore the good so many Christian organizations do and only focus on anything that casts negative light on Christians.
There will always be imposters masquerading as Christians. To understand Christianity, one only needs to look at what Jesus taught and expected of his followers.


NATO announced today they will be sending Will Smith to deal with Vladimir Putin.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359989
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Why was it okay to talk about fundamentalist mormans and catholics? Seems odd your attacking me for posting the news link and making excuses for pedophiles


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7359992
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Lots of foster kids also got/get abused in a lot of ways.Sexual,physical,etc.And by otherwise upstanding families in communities.99% i bet never found out about.
What do you think the ancient story of cinderella was all about.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360010
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Yep welfare does the duck and cover dance too.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360121
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the sons of Voltaire live on.

If you think God made this world for human benefit then horrendous suffering and evil shake your understanding of life.

This post was one of a long line in the same vein by those who can't get their philosophy around the truth that "they" hold dear, so they find fault in any view but there own.
Obvious where the attacks are aimed. The Truth.

Voltaire lives in the minds of many.

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Boco] #7360125
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Originally Posted by Boco
Lots of foster kids also got/get abused in a lot of ways.Sexual,physical,etc.And by otherwise upstanding families in communities.99% i bet never found out about.
What do you think the ancient story of cinderella was all about.


Child molesting? confused That prince was a lot older. And the family was dykes.


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Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360129
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Back now to the original post. It seems preying on children is not primarily the realm of Catholicism or Mormons.

I can't help but wonder if it is their way of dealing with desires they don't want to have. Desires they tell and have been told are a choice. To ashamed of them to ever put a voice to them. So instead they hurt others.

I think it has more to do with control and authority. Religion to a certain extent is about control and attracts those that like to control others. This doesn't stop at religion or them but extends to the feeling of power when they control people sexually also.

I say this as a religious/spiritual person but over the years I have noticed a theme.

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Cops have really cracked down in the last 10 years or so. Used to be common to see these young kids working a parking lot that wasn't "claimed" by whoever was controlling the drug/ sex trade in the notorious spots of Ontario CA, East St Louis, Tucson etc. I dont want to know what makes a 12 y/o choose sex work for a truckdriver/pimp over living at home. Not all runaways made it to LA or San Fran to get recruited.

doesn't change the fact that clergy seem to be prone to this. wonder why that is? perhaps denial that they have the birth defect now called "gay"?


I agree. This has been going on for millennia, just look at Roman and Corinthian culture of 2000 years ago.

Nothing is new, us calling out this perversion wherever it occurs is a good thing. It doesn't matter whether it's civil authorities or religious authorities outing these characters, it is the right thing to do.

I also agree with your "gay" characterization. If a person is born a sociopath, a kleptomaniac or with a sexual mental defect, those issues do not excuse bad behavior. That may sound harsh and "unfair" but that is the way it is.


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Danny -

I am still praying for you and will continue to.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Boco] #7360142
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Originally Posted by Boco
Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.


That's not the way I remember it. She was a Republican and did all the work and the rest of the family who she supported could never get enough, so they tried to marry money.


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