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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360143
09/20/21 03:18 PM
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Cinderella was made to work, which ain't acceptable in today's society and is child abuse.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360148
09/20/21 03:21 PM
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Well known atheist Susan Jocoby often writes that an atheist is free from the problem of evil that religious people must face. She doesn't worry about how a god could allow such things because there is no god. She says this atheistic stance "frees up" atheists to focus on real issues such as "injustice to African-Americans, women's rights, prison reform, and elimination of cruelty to animals."

Wonderful wisdom.
We are a people an inch deep in wisdom who often embraces those who would harm us.
Not this trapper.
Let me off the stupid bus please.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Dirt] #7360149
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Boco
Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.


That's not the way I remember it. She was a Republican and did all the work and the rest of the family who she supported could never get enough, so they tried to marry money.


You could be right,but I thought she was adopted into the hobnobbing rich republican family.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360152
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Prison reform, aye? There are lots of folks doing without food, shelter, free medical and dental that prison inmates are privileged to get. "Entitled", if you will. Prisoner privilege even.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360155
09/20/21 03:27 PM
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You can get off that bus any time you choose too Mark


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360159
09/20/21 03:32 PM
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danny,

Just had a middle class family who has never been to church ask that we baptize their new born baby born blind and with major neurological issues.
Life is bigger, much bigger, than your worldview sir.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360173
09/20/21 03:49 PM
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Circle the wagons. They are talking about protestants now not those evil statue worshipping papists


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Boco] #7360174
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Boco
Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.


That's not the way I remember it. She was a Republican and did all the work and the rest of the family who she supported could never get enough, so they tried to marry money.

You could be right,but I thought she was adopted into the hobnobbing rich republican family.


No she was in a modern 21st century family with stepsisters and a step mom. They were trend setters. Step mom may have murdered her dad? I always wondered what happened to him?

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Who is John Galt?
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360178
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Forced to work to death.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Boco] #7360179
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Originally Posted by Boco
Forced to work to death.


Probably killed himself , married to that woman, and having to look at those ugly step daughters. frown

However, I'm pretty sure that is how Rumpelstiltskin died.

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360188
09/20/21 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Circle the wagons. They are talking about protestants now not those evil statue worshipping papists


You can't argue about evil if you say God is unnecessary danny.
Without theism, evil and morality is subjective and in your (subjective) worldview of atheism every person's view must be respected.
Hitler was just doing what Hitler's do. Same with sexual predators.
Who are you to call them out?

As the secularist, your burden is to bring proof of your argument.

Christians affirm the God (who you call myth) who will bring Judgement (which you say is unfair) on the evil (which you agree exists?)
You're all over the board which is a subjective liberal view.


Blessings,
Mark

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Boco] #7360196
09/20/21 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.

I was thinking quite the opposite. She was a republican forced to work because her democrat stepsisters didn't want to.


I don't care how nice the hand soap smells, you should never walk out of the restroom sniffing your fingers.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360206
09/20/21 04:37 PM
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Mark you can get some really goofy ideas at times


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360214
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danny,
I'll buy you a brew in Kansas. You'll figure it out.
You need to dig deeper than an inch on these when you ask the Q and we answer.

I'm inviting your philosophy to shine, shine, shine upon us but you're only questioning and not doing much of the back and forth part.

Read my last post again and try and articulate why it is you worry about evil?
Evil is subjective to atheists.
Not to orthodox Christians.
We know evil is the enemy of God's good creation but since evil is so deeply rooted in the human heart, if God were to wipe it out and destroy it "everywhere" He would have to destroy us too.
There is still time before the Trumpet and the story has been revealed. grin

Blessings,
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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360223
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Roughly 100,000 cases of rape a year and Danny wants to warn us over one headline.

Thanks for the heads up

Of what religion are the other 99%?

Well, I can tell you, they don't fear the God of the Bible

You're a funny guy

You believe you only have one fleeting life here

And you spend a significant portion of it debating with those who believe in an eternal one?

wisdom is known by her deeds


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360230
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When the father tells the child to do something because he loves the child....
and the child says "sure father, I'll do it as soon as you tell my why I should."
The father says, "If you do it because I explain it well enough that it makes sense to you....
that's called agreement. I'm your father and you are the child so obey and do what I say please. I'm 38 and you're 8. I know a lot more than you do." wink

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: amspoker] #7360231
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Roughly 100,000 cases of rape a year and Danny wants to warn us over one headline.

Thanks for the heads up

Of what religion are the other 99%?

Well, I can tell you, they don't fear the God of the Bible

You're a funny guy

You believe you only have one fleeting life here

And you spend a significant portion of it debating with those who believe in an eternal one?

wisdom is known by her deeds

Nailed it.


Honor a Soldier. Be the kind of American worth fighting for.
Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360252
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Evil is not subjective to atheists. Many believe in humanism, the faith that humanity defines evil. Murder is wrong to atheists too. So much so that our non-theistic legal system punishes the crime.

It's odd you should claim in one thread that atheists have a religion too, then claim here that they get no guidance from anyone but themselves. Which is it? Do they have religious principles or don't they?


Jim


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360255
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If humanity defines evil, then wouldn't that make it subjective?


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: James] #7360265
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Originally Posted by James
Evil is not subjective to atheists. Many believe in humanism, the faith that humanity defines evil. Murder is wrong to atheists too. So much so that our non-theistic legal system punishes the crime.

It's odd you should claim in one thread that atheists have a religion too, then claim here that they get no guidance from anyone but themselves. Which is it? Do they have religious principles or don't they?


Jim

Humanists get guidance from humans (themselves) so its not really contradictory. I don't know if I would call it a religion or more so a belief system.

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