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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360230
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When the father tells the child to do something because he loves the child....
and the child says "sure father, I'll do it as soon as you tell my why I should."
The father says, "If you do it because I explain it well enough that it makes sense to you....
that's called agreement. I'm your father and you are the child so obey and do what I say please. I'm 38 and you're 8. I know a lot more than you do." wink


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: amspoker] #7360231
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Originally Posted by amspoker
Roughly 100,000 cases of rape a year and Danny wants to warn us over one headline.

Thanks for the heads up

Of what religion are the other 99%?

Well, I can tell you, they don't fear the God of the Bible

You're a funny guy

You believe you only have one fleeting life here

And you spend a significant portion of it debating with those who believe in an eternal one?

wisdom is known by her deeds

Nailed it.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360252
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Evil is not subjective to atheists. Many believe in humanism, the faith that humanity defines evil. Murder is wrong to atheists too. So much so that our non-theistic legal system punishes the crime.

It's odd you should claim in one thread that atheists have a religion too, then claim here that they get no guidance from anyone but themselves. Which is it? Do they have religious principles or don't they?


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360255
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If humanity defines evil, then wouldn't that make it subjective?

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: James] #7360265
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Originally Posted by James
Evil is not subjective to atheists. Many believe in humanism, the faith that humanity defines evil. Murder is wrong to atheists too. So much so that our non-theistic legal system punishes the crime.

It's odd you should claim in one thread that atheists have a religion too, then claim here that they get no guidance from anyone but themselves. Which is it? Do they have religious principles or don't they?


Jim

Humanists get guidance from humans (themselves) so its not really contradictory. I don't know if I would call it a religion or more so a belief system.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Mark June] #7360266
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Originally Posted by Mark June
When the father tells the child to do something because he loves the child....
and the child says "sure father, I'll do it as soon as you tell my why I should."
The father says, "If you do it because I explain it well enough that it makes sense to you....
that's called agreement. I'm your father and you are the child so obey and do what I say please. I'm 38 and you're 8. I know a lot more than you do." wink

Even God dignifies his creation by explaining things to us. He doesn't want robots. Look how he reasoned with Lot.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360276
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Donít let people destroy your view of the church. The building or denomination or cult is not the true church. The true church are the believers that christ is coming back for.

There will always be evil people. Donít let them kill your vision of God.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Trapper7] #7360327
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Boco
Cinderella was a democrat-didnt like to work-she deserved the beatings.

I was thinking quite the opposite. She was a republican forced to work because her democrat stepsisters didn't want to.
Are we talking about the same person? I always knew her as Drindacilla and her seven suggly usters.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: yotetrapper30] #7360338
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
If humanity defines evil, then wouldn't that make it subjective?


Yep.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360515
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Thats all to philosophical I guess for me. I do know that adults having sex with children injures the child permanently. That harm is well documented. You dont need philosophy or religion to see and understand that. What those preachers did was wrong. I am really surprised there is no outrage. I honestly thought brand of religion would not matter to most of you when children were being harmed. Especially by people put in their lives in a position of trust.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360520
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Thats all to philosophical I guess for me. I do know that adults having sex with children injures the child permanently. That harm is well documented. You dont need philosophy or religion to see and understand that. What those preachers did was wrong. I am really surprised there is no outrage. I honestly thought brand of religion would not matter to most of you when children were being harmed. Especially by people put in their lives in a position of trust.

I agree whole heartily with you. I would be even mote outraged if it was a member within my own community. Call the cops amd CPS immediately. Clergy have no business getting involved in criminal allegations.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Mark June] #7360525
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Originally Posted by Mark June
Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
If humanity defines evil, then wouldn't that make it subjective?


Yep.


Second the yep! If you donít get your morals from God then anything goes. Some say they get them from their heart! Pretty sure Hitlers heart was leading him. Ask the Jews how that turned out! Itís a anything goes deal if it comes from human emotions.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360531
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I don't know that I've seen anybody "circling the wagons" or trying to protect child molesters. The problem you have when you present something like this, is that you are specifically doing it to attack Christians. Period. You know that this is a small sample of people, who are arguably not even Christian, because they specifically go against the teachings of the Bible. You're not bringing this up to try and help the victims, you are just trying to justify your hatred of God and disdain for believers. Those people are obviously not Christians, no matter what they claim.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360533
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Thats all to philosophical I guess for me. I do know that adults having sex with children injures the child permanently. That harm is well documented. You dont need philosophy or religion to see and understand that. What those preachers did was wrong. I am really surprised there is no outrage. I honestly thought brand of religion would not matter to most of you when children were being harmed. Especially by people put in their lives in a position of trust.


Why in the world would you think anyone isn't outraged? Of course we're outraged. Outraged, sickened and saddened. To me it makes no difference if the evil being that did that is Christian, or Muslim, or Atheist, or Buddhist or whatever. He should be executed, or at the very least castrated and locked up for life. What REALLY outrages me is that people doing this kind of evil are locked up for a few years and then released again to do it to someone else.

I think all religions have people in them, from the top on down, that are NOT truly believers. There is no way a person could truly believe in God and do something so heinous. A person like that believes in only one thing... their self! There's not a person on earth or being in Heaven those people care about, only their own twisted pleasure.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Pawnee] #7360534
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Originally Posted by Mark June


Yep.


Second the yep! If you donít get your morals from God then anything goes. Some say they get them from their heart! Pretty sure Hitlers heart was leading him. Ask the Jews how that turned out! Itís a anything goes deal if it comes from human emotions.

And the Spanish Inquisition and Salem Witch Trials? How about the 100 years war or the IRA? Muslims worship the god of Abraham..... Have very similar guidance as Christians outside of dogma.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: BandB] #7360537
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Originally Posted by BandB
I don't know that I've seen anybody "circling the wagons" or trying to protect child molesters. The problem you have when you present something like this, is that you are specifically doing it to attack Christians. Period. You know that this is a small sample of people, who are arguably not even Christian, because they specifically go against the teachings of the Bible. You're not bringing this up to try and help the victims, you are just trying to justify your hatred of God and disdain for believers. Those people are obviously not Christians, no matter what they claim.

I agree with this..... But there is a problem with religious organizations that claim to be Christians.

Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: James] #7360552
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Originally Posted by James
Evil is not subjective to atheists. Many believe in humanism, the faith that humanity defines evil. Murder is wrong to atheists too. So much so that our non-theistic legal system punishes the crime.

It's odd you should claim in one thread that atheists have a religion too, then claim here that they get no guidance from anyone but themselves. Which is it? Do they have religious principles or don't they?


Jim


They have their own personal god. Kind of like a Mr. Potato head or a Barbie Doll. They dress it up how ever they want and feel at any given time. It shows evidence of deep insecurity and inability to adhere to any moral standard.


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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360558
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Some here, including some Christians, are quite willing to judge Muslims by the actions of a few.

Why would anyone be surprised if Christians are also judged by the actions of a few members?

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: Pike River] #7360561
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Originally Posted by Pike River
Originally Posted by Mark June
When the father tells the child to do something because he loves the child....
and the child says "sure father, I'll do it as soon as you tell my why I should."
The father says, "If you do it because I explain it well enough that it makes sense to you....
that's called agreement. I'm your father and you are the child so obey and do what I say please. I'm 38 and you're 8. I know a lot more than you do." wink

Even God dignifies his creation by explaining things to us. He doesn't want robots. Look how he reasoned with Lot.


Except when God works in mysterious ways.

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Re: looks like not just catholic priests and mormons [Re: danny clifton] #7360562
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Pike didnít say we were perfect. Sure thereís been bad times for the church. We live in the greatest country on earth a Contry thatís done 1000 fold more good than evil. Same as the church. You canít cherry pick bad times and single them out to degrade them. Both are run by humans (sinners) and bad things happen but the good by far outweighs the bad.


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